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Post by paopadd on Jul 20, 2009 16:53:04 GMT -5
Hi friends, i would like to contact the desdendant of General Luciano San Miguel , member of this forum... (maybe he is the person who displayed the flag of the late General San Miguel on the present forum image). I would like to obtain images of the flag replica and infos about this great General.
My e-mail is : paopadd1962@libero.it
Thanks.
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Post by paopadd on Jul 18, 2009 16:20:59 GMT -5
Sad to heard it... i hope someone in Laguna will do something to preserve the memory of Heneral Cailles.... .
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Post by paopadd on Jul 16, 2009 15:56:40 GMT -5
A nephew taken the pics. last week... as you can see the grave is in a good condition ( all the cemetery too... ). My mother-in-law lives very near : about 10 min. far from the cemetery.
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Post by paopadd on Jul 16, 2009 7:50:51 GMT -5
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Post by paopadd on Jul 16, 2009 7:48:53 GMT -5
Some other images of his Mausoleum....
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Post by paopadd on Jul 16, 2009 7:47:11 GMT -5
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Post by paopadd on Jul 16, 2009 4:27:07 GMT -5
The tomb of Heneral Miguel Malvar is located in Santo Tomas , Batangas, his hometown
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Post by paopadd on Jul 10, 2009 16:09:46 GMT -5
I don't think that the black star on the salakot (supposed ) of Bonifacio was merely coincidental ; anyway, the star was depicted in black, one of the first color of the KKK ...maybe the star symbolized the KKK.... You are right : red, black and white were the colors of the Katipunan the same colors of the Imperial Germany and Prussia too (white and black ) but i think the chooise of the German colors was only a coincidence. These colors belongs to the Masonry but red was the traditional color of uprising and war in all the far east lands of Asia, particularly in the Philippine-indonesian and Malaysian Area.
About the tricolor blue, white and red ; you wrote :
""The Magdalo faction of Aguinaldo later adopted more of the French and American "republican" symbolisms....the red, white and blue colors, the five-pointed stars, etc. ".
The Magdalo, better the Aguinakldo's group in H:K. adopted the tricolor in honor of the U.S.A. , also the star on flags came from the american flags: the meaning of one star for one land or region or island has american origin, after the first american flag (13 stars ) many Countries around the world adopted this tradition and symbolism on flags , seal and coat of arms.. .
About Bonifacio's idea of nationalism or monarchy i think it's a very hard question to reply just we must consider that among the lectures of the "Supremo" were "le Miserables" of Victor Hugo in which the epic of :" La Commune de Paris" was so well illustred. so we can say he had an idea about the meaning or Monarchy or Republic ...isn't it ?
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Post by paopadd on Jul 10, 2009 15:42:14 GMT -5
We don't have any proof that the salakot belonged to Bonifacio just the words of the curators of the Museo ng katipunan ; they told me the salakot was donated to the owner of the museum by some Bonifacio 's relatives... Inever seen the Rizal's monument in Rome, i hope i will see it next year when i will go to Rome.
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Post by paopadd on Jul 8, 2009 15:44:19 GMT -5
Inside the Museo ng Katipunan in Lipa City, Barangay Bulaklakan there is one of the original salakot belonged to the "Supremo " Andres Bonifacio, at the top of that salakot there is a black five pointed star , i think that is one of the first representation of the star among the Katipunan and revolutionaries symbols, why he and the katipunan members didn't adopted the star as symbol it's not so clear... What is your opinion friends ?
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Post by paopadd on Jul 8, 2009 15:07:56 GMT -5
Kev, can you send me or publish here the image of Hen. Luciano San Miguel and Stotsenburgs you mentioned ? Thanks.
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Post by paopadd on Jul 8, 2009 15:05:58 GMT -5
Very nice images.. Perry and friends: you are great !!!
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Post by paopadd on Jun 30, 2009 16:51:25 GMT -5
I gave a "donation " (pera ) for the Museo ng Katipunan but they don't change their opinion, they were like bodyguards , they were closed to me... i was like a prisoner...he he he...! Anyway i prefere to be sincere about my goals when i visit a Musum or private collections.. P.S. Agmohio, when we will see your flag collection here on pinoyhistory ? i know you have got a great flag collection
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Post by paopadd on Jun 23, 2009 15:05:35 GMT -5
David, thanks a lot for your reply and for your last private e-mail you sent me; anyway, you are right, i'm agree with you at 100%... Vic, you are right too, in many museums around the world to take pics. is forbidden but in many cases they provide you a good catalog or a book with pics. and infos... In many filipino museums they don't give you neither catalogs nor it's possible to take pics.. (sad to say that ! )
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Post by paopadd on Jun 23, 2009 9:15:33 GMT -5
Here another original KKK flag , note the small K on it... This flag was inside the Aguinaldo Shrine in Kawit, Cavite until 2007; at present the flag is not displayed; we don'yt know the reasons...
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Post by paopadd on Jun 23, 2009 9:13:53 GMT -5
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Post by paopadd on Jun 21, 2009 15:51:55 GMT -5
The flag is original, it is on the Museo ng Katipunan in Barangay Bulaklakan, Lipa City, Batangas Province; I visited the Museum about 3 years ago ... They told me that Bonifacio given personally the flag to one of the most important members of the Katipunan that later become Chairman of the Association of the Veteranos y hijos de la Revolucion in Lipa Area... The flag is cotton made (not silk) we know that the first personal flag or banner of the Supremo was silk made but i think this flag is an original copy of the flag made by Gregoria De Jesus in 1896 circa... The rays are 12 (not indefinite as written in many history books, like Agoncillo's book...)and they have a geometric and stylized shape; the sun is smal and the 3 K too.. If we take a look at many old original Katipunan flags and banners we will discover that the letter K is smallest than in the "modern" replicas of those flags; the measures of the flag are cm. 100 x 150 cm. circa. Until last year was forbidden to take a picture of the flag because they was thinking if persons have an image of the flag they don't have any kind of reason to go there to visit the museum...!!!!
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Post by paopadd on Jun 20, 2009 18:12:45 GMT -5
I have no doubt about this matter: Macario Sakay was an hero, a great hero , not a criminal....!
Mabuhay !
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Post by paopadd on Jun 20, 2009 18:06:51 GMT -5
Here the image of the personal flag of the "Supremo" Andres Bonifacio; the flag is at the "Museo ng Katipunan" , Barangay Bulaklakan, Lipa City, Batangas.
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Post by paopadd on Apr 20, 2009 16:09:21 GMT -5
Dear ibarramedia, i knwe the images you posted here, the gonfalon of blue and red color was in the collections of the "Museo del ejercito " in Madrid, Spain... About the supposed first Philippine flag, on display at Presidio Park in SF, California ... as part of an exhibit about the Fililipino-American War now i know who's the owner of it, This person, B:Z. promised me he will give me soon some infos and pics. of this flag, in his private collections there are 3 filipino flags dated 1898/1902 circa.. I will send you images and infos as soon as possible.
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