Stumbled on to this old news.... NO! I grieve for the garands. Please why couldn't I have one or two of them first... They look so dirty and could use a loving home...
----------------- MAKATI - - PHILIPPINES Filipino soldiers guard assorted weapons to be destroyed during the 110th anniversary of Philippine Army inside Fort Monifacio in Makati City, south of Manila, Philippines on Thursday, 22 March 2007. Military officials claim that the weapons were either captured, confiscated, recovered, or surrendered in different parts of the country.
Filipino soldiers look at 1,600 assorted rifles as they are prepared for disposal by high-ranking military officials to coincide with the Philippine Army's 110th anniversary Thursday March 22, 2007 at Fort Bonifacio south of Manila, Philippines. The guns were either captured, confiscated, recovered or surrendered, from communist and muslim rebels as well as criminals. An estimated 45,000 guns are scheduled to be destroyed this year in what the military said to prevent them from ending into the hands of terrorists, rebels and criminals.
This has been discussed on a Philippine gun forum. Members there who have inspected these weapons, guarantee that all of these firearms are trashed weapons. Many of them are rusted through out, rusted shut, barrels shot out or seriously pitted, parts already scavenged, confiscated from terrorists, broken stocks and parts, seriously damaged, and/or not operable at all. Some can possibly be fixed but they would need a LOT of work, not worth the effort and cost.
I like Garands too, but man, there are MILLIONS of them.
Last Edit: Jul 8, 2008 1:21:38 GMT -5 by dimasalang
As I mentioned earlier, they all have been inspected already and they are all TRASH. If any of them could of been saved they would have(we are talking the Philippines here, the land of recycling)...what you are seeing is just media "feel good" hype from the GMA administration. If you were to use any of those Garands as a ornament or for reenactment they would have to be refinished, which means spending $100 or so on stock parts and +$100 for a park job. Who would spend that kind of money on a rifle worth $50 bucks when you can get a rack grade from CMP for $500. CMP would NOT take any of those rifles. CMP deals in rifles that operate. haha. ;D
The way I see it, good riddens. There is no shortage of Garands or Garand parts...there are MILLIONS floating around the entire world to be had. If you want one, get a membership at CMP and buy one...you wont be sorry and you will have one that looks good and operates and fires 100%.
Post by indiosbravos on Jul 9, 2008 4:29:47 GMT -5
Lucky you from the US. Here Garand are $1000- 1500. You have to have a valid reason to have that (replica or blank firer, even a resin one), i.e., if not gun license, you must be a member of a recognised reenactment group. On top of this, the law will requires you to have a PLI (Public Liability Insurance) which works out cheap if your in a group. It's a tedious process, it will be easier to get an unlicense gun from the street here than a legal guns.
Post by indiosbravos on Jul 11, 2008 18:05:22 GMT -5
Rick, you can say that again... ;D or I rather be like this on that issue , they say to- mae- to, I say to-ma-to.
Vic, What I meant to say on that issue was it will probably be easier to establish and be known to the police that you're a citizen of good standing if you're a license gun owner (shotgun and hunting rifle). At least your name will be in their data base. Then you can add to your arsenal deactivated guns, resin etc. At the moment in here it was still very confusing and different organizations are trying to interpret the law to protect themselves.
Many times I went to the police and wanted them to get my name and be put in their data base regarding my Airsoft guns, they always refused me saying I'll be okey and yet you heard a lot of stories about armed police raids and people being in prison for 3 hours and their airsoft guns being confiscated because their neighbours reported seeing a "gun" being carried and fired by their neighbour in the garden...Don't wanna be on that situation you see.
Since October 2007, the idea was to ban all RIF, Realistic Imitation Firearms. Then all airsoft retailers banded themselves and formed a group to have a national data base of registered Airsoft Players (of course no players, no market). Be on that list then you can order Airsoft and buy it here or from abroad.
Then all the reenactors have to registered their group. I don't know how it works on those who have deactivated weapons and not affiliated on any recognised group.
You're somewhat right on your observation. To be able to have a non firing, replica, resin, copy firearms will be quite tricky. You have to be a reenactor. In a group and insured (I believe insurance was more for deactivated). So when the police question you, you have something to show, a bit of hassle protection. Where as for airsoft, play three times within two months in one game site then you can already registered as a member then can buy your airsoft gun.
But all in all people here are all still unsure because the goverment wanted to totally ban all Replica and anything resembling real guns RIF.
Just wondering, when was the last time you see gang members trying to do drive by and robbing people using Thompsons and Garands, 03, P17 and 14
P.S. Just a conspiracy theory, you see here, taxes for the alcohol except whiskey, cigarette except tobacco are high. You can own any gun before 1880 (even if is still working?).
Who drinks whiskey here, smoke tobacco, own a vast amount of Napoleonic, Nelson's weapons.....The rich, aristocrats.....
We don't have a constitution here. Some of the written Acts (it's wording) are not well define and it's up to the police and the court to interpret each case to it's own merits.
If you're a farmer (rich people), a hunter (aristocrats and royals), shooting/gun club member - elite(target,clay) you'll be alright to have a gun....
Disclaimer: I may be wrong on all that I have said because my mind was clouded by my frustrations on not being able to/wont be able to own a garand,03 and P17 easily.
Post by insurrectomad on Mar 10, 2009 9:30:04 GMT -5
Amen! Amen Indiosbravos. Almost a year late reading your mif about the Fil. Garands and & the agro. of all the weapon restrictions in Britain. I could have bought a beautiful Colt revolver from Las Vagas for $20! but could find no legal way of bringing it home. I've tried to buy a Turkish Muaser a Thai? one also on an other occasion for a reasonable price but neither can fire blanks! Even my Napoleonic rep. Austrian Stutsen had to be smooth-bored before I could use it at reenactment; And that is a flintlock long barreled gun! All the oppressive rules & regulations (worst being imposed by petty munninciple councils) forced many Napoleonic reenactors to attend only events in Europe, where living hist. on wide open land is permitted, authentic campsites and open camp fires, plus an issue of 1kilo of B. powder per man is given each day! In UK one must queue up each day for the equivalent of 18 rounds!
Just how many prewar guns are destroyed each year by the Fil. Police & Army? I would have thought the Phil. Govt. would want to have an historian/museum collector to check them over first. It falls to the curators of museums in the Phil. to investigate and petition for this perhaps?