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Post by legionnaire on Feb 12, 2007 18:23:52 GMT -5
It saddens and angers me to witness almost all the Philippine static tanks, vehicle and museums displays all missing parts, rusting away and neglected due to no government support to preserve relics of Philippine history. It clearly reflects of a government with it's corrupt institutions as a genuine a coconut republic. Philip
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Post by armyjunk on Feb 12, 2007 19:18:17 GMT -5
I wouldn't be to hard on the Philippines. The united states hasn't done a steller job of preserving armor. Most have sat outside for 50 years before someone decided to take care of them. does that make the US a "government with it's corrupt institutions as a genuine a coconut republic"? it could....... Philip are you in the philippines?? Luzon??
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Post by legionnaire on Feb 12, 2007 23:00:26 GMT -5
I now live in California. Grew up most of my life in smog polluted and dirty Manila the former "Pearl of the Orient". Philip
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Post by VeeVee on Feb 12, 2007 23:07:32 GMT -5
Last I heard the PAF has grounded its jet fighters for cost reasons. I'd imagine preserving display antique tanks wouldn't be up there on the AFP's priority list. It's a shame but that's the way it is. It's probably up to private organizations, clubs, or foundations to do something about preserving the history and military heritage of the country.
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Post by armyjunk on Feb 12, 2007 23:46:35 GMT -5
VeeVee do u know Andy at fort mott NJ?
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Post by faustino on Feb 13, 2007 21:23:58 GMT -5
What does "dimasalang" mean?
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Post by armyjunk on Feb 13, 2007 22:38:14 GMT -5
DIMASALANG This truck was seized from former mayor Rafael B Suapez of Capas and was used in the campaign against the NPA insurgency in the 1970's also involved in the Aquino-Galman SLAY case
I believe this is what it says on the truck, i have no idea what DIMASALANG means, but someone here should......
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Post by milspec on Feb 14, 2007 12:46:54 GMT -5
Greetings Armyjunk, Great pictures you posted. Its nice to know they are still there. Although I must say the the M-24s in Lingayen have seen better days. When I last saw them they were in their original olive green paint and they were generally intact although the interior was fully gutted. The one with the steel tracks looks like it was hit by an anti tank gun and burned. I remember that the bogies were all intact and the fender was still there. What kind of camouflage are they sporting now. The only documentation I know of M-24 in Philippine service was when the Philippine Expeditionary Force to Korea was issued these tanks as replacement for the PA Sherman's that were lost in combat. As to their presence in Lingayen I don't have any documentation of the US utilizing the M24 during the Philippine liberation. I wonder if that T-6 disguising as a zero is still there. The PMA collection looks like its growing. I share all you sentiments that these historical artifacts should be better taken cared off. It takes a lot of money and commitment to preserve these artifacts. I was watching Tank Overhaul last night and I was just amazed at the efforts Mr. Littlefield and Mr. Wheatcroft went to to restore basket case Panthers to their better that original condition. www.milvehtechfound.com/www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=2218They have the passion and more importantly the money to pursue their dreams. The Aberdeen Proving Grounds Museum is moving in the right direction however so slowly. They have a great collection but not much funding. www.ordmusfound.org/I didn't get a chance to see their Tiger I and Tiger II. By the time I got there the Tiger one had been returned to Germany and the Tiger II had gone to the Fort Knox Patton Museum of Armor and Cavalry. www.generalpatton.org/index.aspBy the way did you know that Fred Ropkey in Indiana has a restored Japanese tank. I think its a "Shin-Hoto Chi-Ha". www.ropkeyarmormuseum.com/gallery052005_1.htmHope you can share some more armour pics. milspec
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Post by faabala on Feb 14, 2007 16:58:44 GMT -5
Looks like this homemade armored car in Sulu. I don't know the date of this photo. It almost looks like an M3 scout car.
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Post by armyjunk on Feb 14, 2007 21:45:47 GMT -5
Fred Ropkey is a friend of mine he has a Type 97 Chi-Ha Medium Japanese tank. He also has these, most of which run...Anyone need pics of anything at Fort Knox I will be glad to take them for you as its just down the road a ways. Can't guarantee anything because it very dark inside there. I also have a lot of other pics if someone needs something. These links will take you to Fred's toys..... www.com-central.net/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=5113&highlight=ropkeywww.com-central.net/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=5114&highlight=ropkey1. WILLYS JEEP 2. M114 3. M3A1 STUART 4. M5A1 STUART 5. M56 SCORPION, 90mm GUN 6. 37mm AT GUN 7. M41A1 WALKER BULLDOG 8. M41A1 TURRET ONLY 9. M42A1 DUSTER 10. M7B2 PRIEST 11. M4 HALFTRACK, 81mm MORTAR 12. M8 ARMORED CAR 37mm 13. M3A1 SCOUT CAR 14. WC53 CARRY-ALL 15. TYPE 97 JAPANESE TANK 16. T16 UNIVERSAL CARRIER 17. M24 CHAFEE 18. M18 HELLCAT 19. M4A3 SHERMAN, 75mm GUN 20. M4A3E8 SHERMAN 105mm HOWITZER 21. M4A3E8 SHERMAN 76mm GUN 22. M26 PERSHING, 90mm GUN 23. M1917 6TON TANK 24. M48A1 PATTON, 90mm GUN 25. M109A3 SP HOWITZER 26. ONTOS 27. 3 inch M5 AT GUN 28. 47mm JAPANESE AT GUN 29. M48 PATTON 30. M48 PATTON
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Post by VeeVee on Feb 15, 2007 6:37:47 GMT -5
VeeVee do u know Andy at fort mott NJ? No I don't. Nice collection there by Fred Ropkey. Expensive hobby...
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Post by milspec on Jul 4, 2007 22:27:09 GMT -5
Greetings Gentlemen, I've been out of town visiting my parents in Seattle. I just got back. My mom gave me some old pictures from the Philippines. I was surprised to see these old pictures of the P-51D "Skipper" #410 that used to be mounted at the PMA grounds in Baguio. I believe this was sometime in the mid seventies. My grandfather used to take us to the PMA during our Holy Week retreat to Baguio. Hope it brings back some good memories. Close-up milspec
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