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Post by r2ro on Sept 29, 2008 4:46:24 GMT -5
Would anyone knows' something about the Aguinaldo's Red Brigade? Are they the one who wore the red or orange trousers with a Rayadillo coat? I have an article here dated March 13, 1899 published by the NY Times stated that " this body of Rebels seemed under better trained and better leadership than most of the others, and a white man was seen among the officers endeavoring to lead them to the attack. "
Art Garcia Macabebe Scout
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Post by 79thfoot on Sept 30, 2008 22:11:01 GMT -5
Wow! They must have looked like Filipino Zouaves :-) I wonder if they weren't sandatahan, wearing the traditional 'red baggy pants' like the one they always show Bonifacio wearing...
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Post by r2ro on Oct 3, 2008 19:46:38 GMT -5
Inclosed is a picture of American Marines attacking the town of Novaleta, Cavite in 1899. Captions read " Red pants at Novaleta, " by Col. Charles Waterhouse. Art G. [/img]
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Post by dimasalang on Oct 3, 2008 20:17:07 GMT -5
Inclosed is a picture of American Marines attacking the town of Novaleta, Cavite in 1899. Captions read " Red pants at Novaleta, " by Col. Charles Waterhouse. Art G. [/img][/quote] Photo didnt turn up. But I am really curious to see what it looks like. ;D
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Post by r2ro on Oct 4, 2008 0:47:25 GMT -5
Hello Gentlemen, I just sent the picture to Victor. Hopefully he'll be able to post it anytime now. I tried to do it on this web page but it look like it don't want to cooperate. Art G. edit: here it is Art
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Post by paopadd on Nov 18, 2008 8:48:10 GMT -5
At the beginning of the revolution The filipino fighters of the Katipunan wore no standard uniform exept the Katipuneros of the " Supremo ", Andres Bonifacio ; on a spanish account on the battle of San juan del Monte, in 1896 we can found out the following interesting words: " they ( the insurgents ) wore red trousers and white shirts... " Maybe the tradition of red trousers for some particular corps start in 1896 until the Aguinaldo's period....
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Post by galahad143 on Jan 24, 2009 2:21:16 GMT -5
Would these uniforms be similar to the Pulahanes of the Visayas and Bicol?
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Post by paopadd on Feb 4, 2009 16:48:23 GMT -5
Honestly speaking i don't know well but i think they were similar....
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Post by dimasalang on Feb 5, 2009 13:47:08 GMT -5
Would these uniforms be similar to the Pulahanes of the Visayas and Bicol? The Pulahans were more of a religious organization made up of Waray people. "Pula" in Waray means "red"...also in Tagalog. They wore red trousers also, but this organization went as far back as the early 1890s prior to the Philippine Revolution. I would say they have no connection to Aguinaldos "Red Brigade" or Bonifacios Katipunan...the Pulahans were just crazed religious fanatic killers who wore red...not just in their trousers but other clothing as well. Although, I do believe many of them participated in the revolution and Gen Lukban recruited many of them in Samar...I strongly believe they were responsible for the plotting of the Balangiga Massacre. They believed more in their religious sect then anything else...they would go so far as killing women and children. Also, in one US officers report, they mentioned this group had no special tactic or strategic skill, they just exploded out in hordes of bolo rushes. To this day Waray people are considered ruthless fighters.
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Post by paopadd on Feb 5, 2009 17:26:42 GMT -5
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Post by dimasalang on Feb 5, 2009 18:27:50 GMT -5
Ive read through this website a few times. This website gives you a full perspective of who the Pulahanes were. They spawned from the Dios Dios cult and Faustino Ablen was the one who took the group further. A few years ago, I remember reading another officers report where these groups would wave a white flag in front of them during battle, "believing" it would shield them from American bullets. But when you really think about it, waving a white flag means you surrender and not to shoot...and when the Americans stopped firing they may have believed the waving of their white flag is working and warding off bullets. As ignorant as these cults were, they were a force to be reckoned with, and most people feared them.
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Post by 26th on Feb 5, 2009 21:59:01 GMT -5
Note:
Waving a white flag can mean surrender or a flag of truce to talk. It can be used by both sides. One to say surrender or the other that is surrendering.
But still, it would stop firing from the other side to see what the white flag is about.
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Post by dimasalang on Feb 5, 2009 23:23:51 GMT -5
Note: Waving a white flag can mean surrender or a flag of truce to talk. It can be used by both sides. One to say surrender or the other that is surrendering. But still, it would stop firing from the other side to see what the white flag is about. This is what everyone knows is the general "rule" in war. Wave a white flag, truce or surrender. But these pulahanes, or any other cult, did not know that. They were mostly made up of uneducated illiterate high landers who knew nothing of the rules of war. They honestly believed the white flag was there anting anting.
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Post by paopadd on Feb 7, 2009 6:34:46 GMT -5
You are right Kevin, tha white flag was their anting- anting, there were some inscriptions (and maybe symbols) on it . If will be nice to find out a sample of this flag , maybe someone with pulahanes anchestors has a copy of this flag...
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Post by dimasalang on Feb 7, 2009 21:10:35 GMT -5
You are right Kevin, tha white flag was their anting- anting, there were some inscriptions (and maybe symbols) on it . If will be nice to find out a sample of this flag , maybe someone with pulahanes anchestors has a copy of this flag... Hey Paolo, I just read that one of the flags was all white with a red cross in the middle.
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Post by dbanaghanhotmailcouk on Feb 11, 2009 0:32:32 GMT -5
Hello, photos of some troops paraded with Aguinaldo suggest yes they wore red britches see AM/PHIL war Site "Harpers magazine" Pic of 'Attack on Tondo Barracks" Gen. Luna's night attack on Manila. Whiteman seen serving with Fils. is on e of many reported. i am still seeking info on " An English soldier of Fortune" that was reputedly in command of sharp-shooters that killed Gen. LAWTON Battle of San Matao 19 Dec 1899. read in 'Little brown Brother' by ? Leon. Q =how was it known he was English?? Maybe Yanks wont except Fils trained themselves to shoot well (Lawton was at 300yards) I'm Anglo-Irish, Asowa filipina, retired in Angeles City Pampanga & part time back in London UK. reserching on Gens, Makabulos of Tarlac & Geronimo of Marikina (Morong) reenactor for 26 years English Civil War & Napoleonic War (Austian 6th Grenzer Regt) have white Insurrecto kit also. All the best David
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Post by insurrectomad on Feb 11, 2009 1:32:19 GMT -5
look at photo from site americanphilipinewar 1898-02 there is pic of troops in dark blue uniforms ( ex police guardia civil/) and others in white & rayadillo with this flag. In Nat History Mus. Manila I think.
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Post by insurrectomad on Feb 11, 2009 2:10:40 GMT -5
Gen Luna in creating a "new model army" like Cromwell did in the English C/W for the same reason the army in the field at the time lacked training. discipline and good officers. Luna gleaned these from men who had trained & served in Spanish Militias and from Spanish POW's happy to fight Yanques. Proscribed a universal uniform of rayadillo, with blue, black and grey trousers for officers. Cols & Gens often wore Spanish wine colour ones. Because Luna Wasn't a vet of the Katipunan and despised by Gens of the "old Guard' they dressed their troops in various uniforms. Mascardo's Bataan regt. wore a black or dark blue uniform with their square 'straw' painted black ( prevented hat sagging in the rain?) Noriel's troops also in complete blue uniform. As with all armies, elite regts. want to be distinguished on the battlefield. Tino's Ilacanos wore the peasants helmet made from a gourd to different from his Nerva Ecija troops. The Cavitano Troops must have been easy to destinguish as Luna noted when the day they killed him.
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Post by macky on Feb 11, 2009 11:01:38 GMT -5
dbanaghanhotmailcouk,
Hi,
I think this might help you! in his memoir Col. James Parker mention this Englishman named "Mcdonald" as the one who trained Gen. Geronimos Tiradores Dela Muerte(Sharpshooters of Death)
According to him(Col. James Parker), this englishman died later in the Battle of Imus in Cavite. He died fighting with the filipinos.
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Post by dimasalang on Feb 11, 2009 15:37:49 GMT -5
Arthur Howard was also "charged" with the death of Gen Lawton. Licerio Geronimo and his men surrendered days after Aguinaldos capture...it was believed Howard headed south and continued fighting along side the Filipinos. Prior to his capture he was in overall command of the Filipino force on Mindoro along side Col Atienza. He was captured, or you could say "kidnapped", by the famous Hazzard brothers(the same brothers who helped capture Aguinaldo with Funston earlier that same year). Howard was believed to be a deserter from the California regiment but his name does not appear on their roster(only two soldiers claimed to have known him). Howard claims he was never part of the American forces and he is from Europe. In nearly all reports, he is described to be an Englishman with a heavy accent. When asked about his military training, he mentioned he fought in the first Boer War in Africa. In some reports his name is listed as "Arturo" and that his mother was Spanish and his father English. What became of Howard is still a mystery to me...I have not found anything in regards to his trial or if he was ever tried.
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