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Post by indiosbravos on Sept 18, 2008 16:32:37 GMT -5
I kept on having this conversations....this is for them.... It's not even PTO but ETO... from: US Army Handbook 1939-45 by George Forty
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Post by alden405 on Nov 19, 2009 18:05:06 GMT -5
Col Goult (in the picture with Patton) was in Russia for most of the war.His helmet is simply his prime issue.
There are photos of the few Marines in Britain wearing the early war helmets as well
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Post by alden405 on Nov 19, 2009 18:12:56 GMT -5
from the Life search on Google cant remember how i found it but very cool
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Post by indiosbravos on Nov 20, 2009 15:55:47 GMT -5
They're British...
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Post by VeeVee on Nov 20, 2009 19:12:35 GMT -5
The guy on the left has USMC on his uniform though.
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Post by indiosbravos on Nov 21, 2009 11:13:05 GMT -5
You're right. I supposed during the war, the soldiers are not really bothered by minor things like this. They're more worried about surviving. That's a Brit helmet and a USMC uniform. They're not really worried and thinking " we can't wear this , what will the Reenactors say about our wrong gears?" Joke .....
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Post by cco23i on Nov 21, 2009 21:33:11 GMT -5
Another thing that is neat is the coveralls are the Marines coveralls for their mechanics!
Scott
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Post by insurrectomad on Nov 25, 2009 9:22:35 GMT -5
the shear size of the chap on the left suggests someone raised on beefstakes and apple pies. The other, on the right could only be British! Any number of reasons for a senior officer to wear odd headgear. He my have been attached to aBritish brigade, or given the helmet as a gift of comradeship as was Winston Churchill during WW1. Churchill continued to wear his French helmet throughout the war. ---David
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Post by bolo on Nov 25, 2009 15:29:45 GMT -5
maybe the Marine is wearing a US M1917A1 ? it looks just like a tommy helmet with a cover or net
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Post by alden405 on Nov 25, 2009 18:25:23 GMT -5
the bloke on the right is a Royal marine
I have more pics from the same series
the USMC element in the UK was tiny but still there
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Post by alden405 on Nov 25, 2009 18:32:55 GMT -5
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Post by alden405 on Nov 25, 2009 18:34:10 GMT -5
100% USMC training with a mix of Brit units
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Post by Lawrence indiosbravos on Nov 26, 2009 2:42:07 GMT -5
Sorry if I confused a lot in my initial post. This was intended to raise awareness to the US used of Kelly Helmet at the start of the war.
What happened was in my very first mitary fair, while wearing my kelly with my PS kit ( US ) I caused a bit of mixed reactions from seasoned and " expert Reenactors " about my " mix bag attire" here in UK.
So any US wearing a tommy pictured could be indeed wearing a Kelly specially at the start of the war PTO ( Phil, Wake , Guam etc )Pictures are difficult but some posted here are obvious. Rough finish and strap are the obvious to look for . We will never see the inside and the screws from most angle of pictures and besides they're wearing it so no chance of the inside.
Hope this clarifies. My apologies
Lawrence
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Post by alden405 on Nov 26, 2009 17:28:44 GMT -5
i took the ball and ran with it
trying to raise awerness of the Marines not in the SWPA and PTO
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Post by legionnaire on Nov 28, 2009 11:26:37 GMT -5
I caused a bit of mixed reactions from seasoned and " expert Reenactors " about my " mix bag attire" here in UK. Keep up the theme of the Filipinos made huge sacrifices and fighting on the other side of the globe. Unfortunately it shows that the "expert/educated" reenactors there believe that the 2nd WORLD war was only fought in Europe. Considering THE BIGGEST ground, only city and NAVAL battles in the entire pacific were fought in the Philippines by the largest US Armada.
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Post by alden405 on Dec 1, 2009 0:13:25 GMT -5
expert reenactors ?
oxymoron
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Post by VeeVee on Dec 1, 2009 17:00:35 GMT -5
Thanks for the pictures Sam. My own pet annoyance are those "experts" who have very authoritatively told me that the garand was the wrong rifle for my impression/kelly helmet For them kelly helmet/1903 are the combo pair, not the garand. I like seeing pictures like the ones you posted above of kelly helmet-wearing GI's with Garands.
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Post by mandres on Dec 4, 2009 10:38:50 GMT -5
Clearly, those primary source photographs are wrong!!! As soon as the Japanese flew away from Pearl Harbor, the US Army called one mass formation, and turned in their M1917a1's and received M1 helmets. As for the Philippine Scouts having Garands, we know that's not true--all the Garands were being held for the not-yet-formed 101st Airborne...My proof? Uhhh, Here, just drink the special Kool-Aid...
Sarcasm aside, this is why reenacting absolutely needs the small (but growing) Filipino reenactor community.
Respectfully, Matt
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