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Post by indiosbravos on Sept 18, 2008 16:06:06 GMT -5
The first one is actually a Lt. Col. 1st Cavalry Division Morocco 1942, The second is Capt. USMC Iceland 1942, and the last one is also a US Marine: 1st Marine Wake Is. 1941... Ref: 20th Century Military Uniforms by Chris McNab
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Post by legionnaire on Sept 23, 2008 3:39:41 GMT -5
Early period PS 1904 PS in Field Dress By Osprey Pub. US Army in WWII Pacific Inaccurate research on the issued P-1917 rifle. And his wearing "Chino" khaki shirt? This was from a French Publication Militaria magazine representing a 26th Cav. PS Sgt. Three buckled boots for a non com?
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hawkins2ndcav
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Post by hawkins2ndcav on Sept 23, 2008 8:38:22 GMT -5
I believe that those look like the 1940 pattern enlisted cavalry boots so it would work.
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Post by VeeVee on Sept 23, 2008 9:49:11 GMT -5
Maybe the stateside troopers got enough of those in time. According to Col. Ed Ramsey, only a few of the officers in the 26th cavalry had those 3 buckle boots. The enlisted men wore the lace up.
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hawkins2ndcav
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Post by hawkins2ndcav on Sept 23, 2008 13:39:40 GMT -5
In that case, then it appears that whoever did the re-construction made a mistake.
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Post by VeeVee on Sept 23, 2008 15:46:31 GMT -5
Not technically a mistake... they just didn't have the access to a 26th veteran
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Post by legionnaire on Sept 23, 2008 17:37:12 GMT -5
Probably so As I have seen more photos from the Militaria magazine on the topic of the early war US Cavalry and If I am not mistaken they have shown high laced enlistedman's boots worn for those pictorial shoots I have those issues.
Plus they should have shown him with a M1 Garand. And from the all photos I have seen i have never seen them roll up their khaki sleeves.
Philip
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Post by alden405 on Oct 16, 2009 21:54:47 GMT -5
The stateside horse units didnt have 3 strap boots the 3 strap boots if worn in the Philipines are probably private purchase the only pics showin American officers show pull on riding boots Whitehead mentions he wore a modified em 3 strap boots (with zippers put in) the 3 strap boots worn in the Militaria mag are a big no no and i agree rolled up sleaves also big no no in Malaria country dont want to warble on but chino shirt for the PS kinda wrong as well Most photos of EM show wool shirts with cotton breeches The photo below shows clear as day private purchase boots as worn by 2 Officers of the 112th cavalry regiment on New Caledonia (The war correspondant is Edgar Rice Burroughs of Tarzan fame) Also note private purchase spurs,straps and butterflys
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Post by alden405 on Oct 20, 2009 1:04:56 GMT -5
The first one is actually a Lt. Col. 1st Cavalry Division Morocco 1942, The second is Capt. USMC Iceland 1942, and the last one is also a US Marine: 1st Marine Wake Is. 1941... Ref: 20th Century Military Uniforms by Chris McNab The 1st one isnt 1st Cavalry in Morocco,they never went there,its a typo in the book
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Post by alden405 on Oct 20, 2009 1:11:50 GMT -5
Early period PS 1904 PS in Field Dress By Osprey Pub. US Army in WWII Pacific Inaccurate research on the issued P-1917 rifle. And his wearing "Chino" khaki shirt? This was from a French Publication Militaria magazine representing a 26th Cav. PS Sgt. Three buckled boots for a non com? here is an EM about 1943 wearing 3 strap boots (issue variant)
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Post by alden405 on Oct 20, 2009 1:13:54 GMT -5
and here is me wearing Dehner 3 strap boots (officer type)
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Post by alden405 on Oct 20, 2009 1:17:58 GMT -5
nice shot of a Stateside Cavalry officer wearing drop front breeches and dress boots,this model of boot apears to be what was worn by Officers in the 26th
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Post by alden405 on Oct 20, 2009 1:20:05 GMT -5
And here is General chase reviewing the 1st Cavalry division at the Emperors Place in 1946 Nice shot of the officers variant of legging topped field boot
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Post by alden405 on Oct 20, 2009 1:22:41 GMT -5
F Troop,124th Cavalry Regiment keeping watch along the Rio Grand 1943
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Post by alden405 on Oct 20, 2009 1:34:48 GMT -5
Here is a real treasure HQ Troop,112th Cavalry regiment,New Caledonia,1943 The 112th was the last horse regiment to serve overseas as horsed cavalry
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Post by VeeVee on Oct 20, 2009 6:12:12 GMT -5
Thanks for the pictures. The last one looks a posed shot as the horse looks like he's standing still.
Notice the non-cavalry holster... I heard second hand that many in the 26th had these regular holsters as well as the regular canteen cover. I should ask Felipe Fernandez...
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Post by 26th on Oct 20, 2009 9:31:27 GMT -5
Hi Philip and Victor;
I am working on doing the 1904 Scout since I have the 1873 Carbine Trapdoor. I always liked that picture. One of my first I saw and bought of a scout.
On the canteen, I happened to ask Dan and Felipe both 26th Cav about the regular canteen. The answer was no for them when they were serving. It got in the way of the saddle and the rider. I know I tried it once on my horse. You only had the left hip to place it without getting in the way and I have not seen that on any photo's.
Take care Rudy
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Post by alden405 on Oct 20, 2009 19:39:11 GMT -5
The Cavalry holster (model of 1912) was obsolete by ww2 I have over a thousand phtos of GI Horse troopers during ww2 and none show the Cavalry holster in use. Some interwar phtoso have it popping up but very rarely. The only ww2 use i can think of is General Mark Clark wearing one altered to fit a revolver and an Airborne trooper wearing one in a Mark Bando book on th 101st
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Post by 26th on Oct 21, 2009 13:00:34 GMT -5
He is also just using a web belt only. No ammo belt. Also only snaffle bit on. Its a nice shot though. I will be trying to do this next year on a borrowed horse.
Rudy
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Post by VeeVee on Oct 21, 2009 17:47:43 GMT -5
On the canteen, I happened to ask Dan and Felipe both 26th Cav about the regular canteen. The answer was no for them when they were serving. It got in the way of the saddle and the rider. I know I tried it once on my horse. You only had the left hip to place it without getting in the way and I have not seen that on any photo's. Take care Rudy That's right I remember you telling me about that. I have to drop that from my cavalry impression then.
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