I actually use Corcoran boots covered with leggings. I have a WW2 airborne impression for airsoft as well. Eventually I'll get the infantry low quarter boots but for now I use corcorans covered by the leggings for my PS impression.
Before I acquired a 1917A1 helmet, I also used a British tommy helmet, but I replaced the chinstrap to that of a canvas M1 so from afar it looked correct.
Over time you'll be able to acquire the gear. Unless you go crazy and shell out serious cash for all the correct gear now
Is there an airsoft 1928 Thompson conversion kit available there in the UK? You could eventually convert your Marui M1A1 to that.
Good luck. Post pictures of your impression in progress when you get a chance. -victor
Post by indiosbravos on Apr 24, 2008 11:53:14 GMT -5
Thanks for the tip Sir Victor. No I'm not planning to shell out that kind of amount lest I suffer "shell shock". With the helmet I'll do that Sir. 1928 conversion, I'll try to talk to some people here who are good smithy maybe they can help. My realistic aim is to complete my gear next year and be able to join the said group that I mentioned. I will also be completing 101st kit on top of this so medyo magastos. Sir pa share ng info at pics pag na ka acquire na kayo ng low cut boots.
Post by legionnaire on Apr 24, 2008 12:17:35 GMT -5
Maraming salamat for planning on representing the PS as we all need to promote and continue their legacy. And you could be the first one to introduced the PS there in the UK.
I know I will get a remarks to some purist here because our gears seems to be a mix and match of what ever available at the time. Correct me Sir if I'm wrong.
- As for the doing the PS impression, 100% of their uniforms and gear were WWI US army issued. The Philippine Division patch were originally not worn on the field but we wear them to help identify who the PS are to help educated the public.
Sa gears, uniforms and webbing as much as possible kung makakuha ako ng orig why not.
- Check out a lot of the militaria shows there were they should have a lot of vendors and find great bargains. And it is easier to examine and try on the items. Or Militaria surplus shops there. On linedealers who also have stores on ebay, do have a lot very well made and quite accurate repro uniforms and gear. Last best bet is EBAY!
And also a uniform (where can I find the post here?, your "little" forum was huge.I'm very impressed)that I can use in Swing Bands Party, I'm a Jazz fan Sir, Specially Swing Bands, Glenn Miller, Vera Lynn. I have to learn Swing na, Nestor de Villa Style. More of an officer uniform not a battle one. As much as possible lahat wool or cotton none of the materials na never been invented during the era.
- As for dress style uniforms there is the class A khaki summer uniform or jacket worn with khaki cavalry riding breeches. They had the patches on them.
- Or you can just wear khaki shirt and trousers with khaki tie and a khaki overseas cap.
I hope you can join us here in the US this year as as PS with our "Nininger" LA chapter of the PS and we are participating in a lot of big reenactment events. We have three major events to show case the PS here. Let me know And I can send you the detaisl and info which you could possible plan and join us. And we can help you get geared up here too. Let us know if you have some questions and doubts about an item you plan on getting for your PS so we can advise you too.
We are going to the national reunion of the Philippine Scouts Heritage Society in May 23 & 24 in San Francisco. Ingat.
The issue with the shirts is, the 1937 pattern and the majority of pre war shirts, had a different collar. It has what WW2 Impressions calls a stand up collar and At the Front calls a structured collar.
Dickies and WPG shirts do not have this. The shirt that WPG is selling came out in 1942, yeah 1942, but unless they are getting them in the POW camps. They did not have them.
The pants that are correct, have a button fly and do not have a separate waist band.
A person goes, well, I am not overly concered with being totally authentic. Yeah, you may not a first. Why spend the money twice if you do become interested in authenticity?
I have spent 30 years reenacting. I have finally learned that cutting corners is not the way to go. I have 50.00 dollars worth of tan shirts. I was trying to find something to use cause WW2 Impressions didn't have anything. I just spent 75.00 buying one of the shirts that I posted.
I bought a pair of ATF Double buckles cause they are just a once in a while thing. I had to take them to a shoe repair shop cause the heels came loose. I should have spent 60.00 more and had a quality pair of boots, like my WW2 Impressions service shoes. I would be alot happier.
Is that Craftsmans shirt 100 percent cotton? Just curious. It is the closest work shirt that I have seen.
Post by indiosbravos on May 4, 2008 16:43:32 GMT -5
Sir Victoree I'm serious on having the proper or at least close to the original to get the PS look. So Dickies will be a No No to me now.
With regards to my use of the PS impressions, since I will be using it on actual Airsoft skirmish I think a battle dress will be more appropriate and durable. Do PS use this and what pattern? OD/Khaki shirts and pants will never last me. Kindly enlighten me Sir.
The PS may have worn the blue denim fatigues. They are US army issue after all... but as far as Bataan is concerned, I never came across a photo of a book mention that they did.
IB, when you play airsoft, it's not usually a WW2 airsoft event correct? The people you play with wear modern impressions and use M16's? I would think the authenticity requirement for something like that would be more forgiving, especially since you plan to use an M1A1 Thompson for now (until you find a 1928 conversion kit).
What if you develop two impressions? One is the serious authentic one for displays and living history reenacting there in the UK, and one for fun (airsoft). Only so you can buy original shirts to wear for displays and living history events and be close to 100% authentic -- but use repro shirts and pants to play airsoft. You can use the web gear for both.
It's slightly more money to have two sets of uniforms but they're for different purposes. Apples and oranges. One is authentic and you don't want to soil. The other you don't care if it rips or gets soiled during play.
Post by indiosbravos on May 7, 2008 16:54:02 GMT -5
I totally agree Sir. When I first thought about of doing a PS impression I never realize it to be this complicated (in terms of decision making on my part). I already know what I want but along the way, different input from all of you guys helps me to be directed on the right path, for that I'm very grateful. I think I need two sets: a cotton one for reenacment/living history, and a wool one for proper skirmishing with WW2 reenactors; wool being more durable not to mention warm.
I just lost on ebay on what could have been my first PS impressions item. It's not just the money(real stuff cost a lot, truthfully:money), it's the time, research, and effort that you will put in to it. I'm looking forward on finishing this and be able to share to you all and to the reenactors in here. I'm very confident because on top of my own research there are people here that I can count on. Salamat po
Well not in the time period, that is being discussed here. I know that they were worn by Philippinos that joined the American Army during the 1944-45 time period.
In October 1944, the United States Army returned to the Philippines in force. Surviving Philippine Scouts reported in for duty with the liberating forces. About half of the original Scouts who had been in service in 1941 were still alive.
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I recently came across a source for the khaki chevrons which were worn on the khaki shirts from 1936 til the early post war years. NATIONAL CAPITAL HISTORICAL SALES has reproduction chevrons in the standard ranks, of the period. Here is their website: www. nchinc.com Look under "CHEVRONS"
I recently purchased one of the CRAFTSMAN brand khaki shirts at a local K-Mart. The color and thickness of the material is fairly close to the originals, however the collar and the pocket flaps are not quite right. The collar has already been discussed in another reply, but the pocket flaps seem to be just a shade on the"short side", compared to the original. The shirt is made of 55% cotton and 45% polyester. The seams are not quite the same as the originals. For the price, though, it appears to be the the closest shirt, for this period impression. (after cutting the CRAFTSMAN logo tab off of the pocket) This shirt will provide a serviceable replica, at a modest cost, but will not pass an in- depth inspection from the "shirt police" Oh well, it's still a good buy at $19.95.