Moro Scouts Jun 24, 2008 16:20:55 GMT -5
Post by dimasalang on Jun 24, 2008 16:20:55 GMT -5
I will certainly provide you "documented proof" on this topic.
Please show clear documented proof that the PS took part on this 1st claim about Sakay and his followers by your recklessly claims.
The fact that you made this quick, extensive, and specific list of names that were the work of the PS and yet you do not have the proof about one example SAKAY right now? And have to take time to make a research shows your reckless claim was exagerrated!
Woo your horses there. First of all, my research is DIRECTLY from the Annual War Reports and the Annual Philippine Commission Reports!!! From 1899 to 1908. YES I DO HAVE ALL OF THEM! AND YES THEY ALL REPORT THE PS WERE USED TO PURSUE, CAPTURE, AND KILL!...and more specifically Sakay and his band of men. I ask for time because these reports can very from 400 to 1000 pages each...with each year having SEVERAL volumes. You can not give me that?
I wanted to go over this "in detail" as to cover ALL my bases to such a claim. Why can you not give me time to express myself is beyond me. As of right now I am 3/4th done with my write up just to you...and as stupid as it sounds, it has cut in to my work time just because of this challenge. If you want I can turn in what I have right now if you like?
I just dont get it...why you do not think the PS was used in this fashion. You do know the PS was established in Feb of 1901 right?..a full year before the Philippine American War ended. What do you think their job was? You do know the Macabebe Scouts were the "original" PS right?...and who were they credited for capturing!...the head hancho himself, Emilio Aguinaldo! Sorry, but to think that the PS was souly used to fight the Moros shows complete ignorance on your part about the PS.
As I have mentioned, I am not done yet. But heres a sample of what I have for you as part of "DOCUMENTED PROOF".
Taken from "Fifth Annual Report of Philippine Commission 1904." Part 1, Page 14
USE OF CONSTABULARY IN CONNECTION WITH SCOUTS.
The act of Congress of February 2, 1901, provided for the creation of a body of native troops not exceeding 12,000 in number, called "scouts," to be organized as companies, squadrons, or battalions, as in the Regular Army. Under this act 50 companies of 100 men each were organized, but with the exception of the battalion sent to the Louisiana Purchase Exposition at St. Louis no battalion organization has ever been formed. The act further provided that the captains to command scout companies should be selected from first lieutenants of the line of the Regular Army, and that the first and second lieutenants should be selected from noncommissioned officers or enlisted men of the Regular Army of not less .than two years' service, or from officers or noncommissioned officers who had served in volunteer organizations subsequent to April 21, 1898. Probably from motives of economy, only first and second lieutenants of scout companies have been appointed. The act of Congress of January 30, 1903, authorized the detail of scout companies, under the limitations therein provided, for service with the insular constabulary forces. Pursuant to the provisions of this act the commanding general, Philippine Division, upon the request of the civil governor, has detailed from time to time 39 scout companies for service with the constabulary.
As stated in our previous report, there has been some disposition to criticise this act, but experience has demonstrated its wisdom and value. Although theoretically the combination of scouts and constabulary is open to the objection that it places a branch of the Regular Army under the direction of civil officials, this objection is fully met when it is considered that the commanding general authorizes the detail, and the chief and assistant chiefs of constabulary who are called upon to direct the operations of the scouts thus detailed are army officers of large experience and high standing. The result of the act has been to permit a substantial decrease in the number of the constabulary, and to that extent to relieve the insular government of an additional burden which it could illy bear. The officers of the two organizations are drawn from the same source of supply and the enlisted men are all natives, so that there is no real difficulty in securing harmonious cooperation between them, as experience has clearly demonstrated. During the year there has been a reduction of American troops in the islands by about one-third. There are now only 12,000 of them here as against 18,000 last year. They now occupy 39 posts only as against 70 posts one year ago. During the year the constabulary and scouts in combination have been scattered throughout the archipelago, usefully and successfully employed in protecting the peaceful and law-abiding inhabitants and in pursuing and breaking up bands of carabao thieves and ladrones wherever they appeared. The firearms which remained in the hands of these outlaws after the insurrection have nearly all been gathered in, so that outside of the Moro Province there remain only a very few in the hands of unauthorized and dangerous characters ; but unfortunately it is easy for a bold outlaw, having control of but two or three guns, to terrify and hold up an entire village. It therefore is necessary to have small detachments of scouts or constabulary scattered through the more remote portions of nearly all the provinces for purposes of protection, and while this necessity has much decreased it still to a considerable extent exists.
Each municipality has a police force of its own, and in many instances they have been armed with shotguns or other inferior weapons as a measure of protection to the people of the municipalities. If the municipal president happens to be a man of energy and courage,
there is but little difficulty in his being able to accomplish this result, but, as is not infrequently the case, when he lacks these qualities it is easy for a few resolute men to surprise the police and take away their weapons. This has happened several times, and it has caused the constabulary authorities to proceed very conservatively in arming the municipal police. But it is proper to say in this connection that the municipal police are gradually being improved and disciplined, and the municipal authorities are beginning to exhibit more energy in protecting their respective communities, so that in the not remote future it is possible that both constabulary and scouts may be reduced in numbers. During the past year several instances have occurred in which the municipal authorities have repelled attacks of marauders and killed or captured them. The steady progress made in eliminating the professional bad men during the past three years is seen in the general peace and quiet which now prevail, but in our judgment it would be unwise, especially if, as seems to be probable, a further decrease of the Regular Army in the islands is contemplated, to reduce the number of scout companies or to repeal the law which permits of their use in connection with the constabulary.
So please, let me finish this formally, as I could provide you many instances. I would not want you to get the wrong impression of me by showing you a half ass'd reply. I am not a walking encyclopedia and I do not not stake information off the top of my head. I do not claim to know everything, but I know well enough in this area. There is just so much information I do have to dig, being the last time studied Sakay and his band was last year and not yesterday.
IN NO WAY AM I TRYING TO TARNISH THE REPUTATION OF THE PS. You asked, and I will tell you the truth, even if it hurts. And as I mentioned in another thread, I am personal friends with Dr. Isabelo Torio, PS of the 26th Cav.