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Post by VeeVee on Jan 16, 2008 14:24:08 GMT -5
Osprey book on the Span-Am/ Fil-Am War  |
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Post by legionnaire on Jan 16, 2008 15:07:05 GMT -5
Thanks for this new item Vic! Will definetly get this issue. ;D
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Post by 26th on Jan 16, 2008 20:53:21 GMT -5
Hi Guys
Just tried buying the book and not availabe with this guys. Left my email for notice when in.
Thanks Vic looks like a great book.
Rudy
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Post by VeeVee on Jan 17, 2008 5:33:11 GMT -5
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Post by VeeVee on Mar 7, 2008 6:57:46 GMT -5
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Post by 79thfoot on Mar 10, 2008 18:16:53 GMT -5
I've seen it, it's pretty good but very thin on our particular area of interest (ie. the Philippines) - Its rather a pity that Osprey never gets in contact with us over here for our side of the campaigns and there's a dearth of titles on Philippine subjects: Spanish Conquistadors - though there is an Osprey on the Conquistadors I don't think it has anything on the Philippine conquest, British invasion - though, to be fair, the only thing they have on the climactic Clive-Dupleix campaign is the campaign series book on Plassey, the Philippine Revolution and the Philippine Campaigns of 41-42/44-45. They have a fortress series and they recently did a book on Caribbean Spanish forts and I thought - hey, we got some pretty good Spanish forts here in the Philippines (one's even a bank hehehe!) plus an entire walled city, Intramuros.
IMHO the best bet you'd get for researching the 1896 revolution would be local works, Filipino Heritage and the AFP museum.
They do have good books on the Galleons however.
Salutes,
Tom
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Post by 79thfoot on Mar 10, 2008 18:19:27 GMT -5
By the way, VeeVee, in the second picture post to the right there's a photograph of two 'Filipino Militiamen' with an 'aeta rebel' - would these be Guardia Civil or one of the native regimentos fijos? I saw a photo of 'Filipino militiamen' in Filipino Heritage in similar uniforms albeit with straw hats instead of pith helmets also labelled 'Filipino militiamen' so I'm a bit confused here.
Thanks,
Tom
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Post by faustino on Mar 10, 2008 19:19:13 GMT -5
I'm still going to buy this book someday soon, but I am already a bit annoyed (maybe we all should be) with the author/publisher for using the word "insurgent" in reference to Filipino soldiers.
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Post by 79thfoot on Mar 10, 2008 19:37:37 GMT -5
How did they call the Cubans though? If they called them the same way then that may just be the way they chose to call all the revolutionary forces. There are still a lot of people who would argue that the Philippines was rebelling against the lawful authority of the new colonial power (though they don't seem to want to extend the same title to the American patriot and minutemen 'insurgents' of 1776).
Ah well... c'est la histoire,
Tom
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Post by 79thfoot on Mar 10, 2008 21:00:25 GMT -5
Also, the author is, if I'm not mistaken Spanish or Spanish-American? The Spanish at least would have good reasons for calling it an 'insurrection' (the same way that the Brits would call the 1745 Jacobite Rising a Rebellion, the 1776 American Revolution a Rebellion and the 1865 Indian Rising the Indian Mutiny) - it's just the perspective from the other side of the hill ;-)
Salutes,
Tom
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Post by faustino on Mar 10, 2008 21:00:27 GMT -5
How did they call the Cubans though? If they called them the same way then that may just be the way they chose to call all the revolutionary forces. There are still a lot of people who would argue that the Philippines was rebelling against the lawful authority of the new colonial power (though they don't seem to want to extend the same title to the American patriot and minutemen 'insurgents' of 1776). Ah well... c'est la histoire, Tom right.... I guess if the context is Filipinos fighting against Spain then "insurgent" would be proper, but not in the context of Filipinos fighting Americans. Filipinos should never accept the premise that the United States had any lawful authority over the Republic of the Philippines. BTW.... hello Tom! welcome to the forum.... this is Mike (aka grenadier68) |
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Post by 79thfoot on Mar 10, 2008 21:29:54 GMT -5
Hey!!! :-D Hi there Mike!
I was briskly googling info on the GCV (Guardia Civil Veterana) on the net and most of the Spanish sites I saw did refer to the Revolution as a rebellion, so I'm thinking thats where the author of this particular volume was coming from.
Man, you'd do our forefathers proud!! Interestingly there was a very active Anti-Imperialist league under William Jennings Bryant w/c included the legendary Mark Twain that were against America taking the Philippines :-)
Salutes,
Tom
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Post by ibarramedia on Apr 11, 2009 0:59:35 GMT -5
I have this book as well as some others in the Osprey series.
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Post by agmohio on Jun 30, 2009 16:48:14 GMT -5
The author is an American, of Cuban background, an a friend of mine. Sorry if the name "insurgent" offends, but to the US Army at that time, that's what the Philippine Army was. It is all a point of view, after all. One man's freedom fighter is another man's insurgent. I hope more quality history books will come from the pins of Filipino authors. They may call the Philippine Independence Army anything they want.
In my upcoming book on uniforms, I will be calling them Katipunans or Republican Army depending on the period. I can't guarantee that I wouldn't use the "I" word if it is in context. I am a big fan of all the armies of the period widely encompassed in the time known here as the Spanish American War. They all had Heroes and villains, they all made mistakes but also did good work. And, most important to me, they all looked very cool in all those uniforms. Lets stick to the history and not worry too much about the names.
By the way, what did Filipinos call the enemy Spanish and US soldiers during the period? There must have been a slang name for both of them. I am curious to know.
Bill
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Post by indiosbravos on Jul 9, 2009 19:43:25 GMT -5
Bill I forgot about your site until you posted the update on it here.....I've known about it ages ago while researching about Katipunan's uniform...Thanks to Google. A very great informative with lots of pictures site...I'm looking forward on your book. Kindly keep us all inform here.
Lawrence
That's not a new issues. In US archives some are still catalogued in the heading of " Philippine Insurrections Records"....The Medal of the Campaign is still and will always be called " Philippine (Insurrection) Campaign Medal". Insurrection because the word was etched on the Medal. Am I happy about the "I" word?, No...Does it bothers me and will always argue about it's usage?, No...It was written on the context of the Victors and of the time. Maybe we can write a book on the Filipino perspective of the war and we can call it Revolutions and them "I" Imperialist....Imperialist...offending word, not in the context of 1896 on a Filipino point of view.
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