Milsim elite webzine launch AAR

[pedroscollection]

Sorry for mis interpreting Joseph statement for that word "cheapening". I stand corrected on that.

Yes, we all agree that historical reenacting is NOT cosplaying.

Reenacting is doing the scenes or any happening or event that happen in the past. But ,... but.... BNK & the Dead Soldiers WWII group activities are not limited too reeanacting alone. Some of our activities aside from reenacting are :

1. Doing military historical lectures where the group are wearing different period uniforms like we did at the Nat'l Museum, SM Mega Mall, San Beda College Museum & University of the Philippines in both Manila & Diliman. After the lecture, we interact with the people & have some cocktails =- still in uniform

2. Commemoration - making a certain celebration or special event more colorful. Like what the AFP, Museums, Universities, etc... Being in uniform during an event. But not doing reenactment like battle scenes. This includes color guard, honor guard or just simply be in uniform to make the event colorful & make the people feel they are in a time machine.

3. Joining Historical contest - What is the venue of these contest??? Its the Cosplay Contest also. Jojo Nicolas & Dy incorporated the Historical Contest in the Cosplay Contest. But... they are not the same. The category for the military historical contest is different to the cosplay contest. There are separate winners. Since we are with the same venue & event of the cosplayers... doing photo ops, making the people enjoy the scene, etc.. with the cosplayers, if you think this is mixing cosplay & reentactment - then fine. So be it. If this is wrong with you, so be it. Its fine with us. We are influencing & educating people. We know our limits, we know when we disgrace our uniform & the heroes who wore it & when its not. If you think we are clowns, so be it - you are entitled to your own opinion.

4. Military Fashion Show - which Milsim / Airsofters are doing since before. During the ramp / fashion show, you may do reenactment of a certain scene, describing your uniform, telling the historical background of who you are, etc, etc. This is also admired by the Armed Forces of the Philippines.

5. Historical speeches - like what Ding, Macky & I did in front of the AFP with the generals & the Chief of Staff , all of them in Attention while we give the speech.

6. Airsoft games - milsim of WWII

7. etc, etc,


The venue or medium of educating history is not limited to reenactment.
You might interpret that some of our activities mentioned above are cosplaying. If that's your definition, then fine.

Yes, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Since you shared your opinion to our event, so we are sharing you also our own

Perry

[labrador]

For me, mostly airsoft games with some commemorations (Colin Kelly Parade, Bataan Season, Fil Am Friendship day) and would love to do military historical lectures.

What i really was excited about at the event was a chance to set up a living history exhibit like you guys do in the US. in face dogmeat and i brought a whole load of gear and extra uniforms for that purpose. The rain ruined any chances of that happening. We were even given a tent and table. but it ended up with the dinuguuan and the pancit on it when it poured and we had to settle indoor.

[bravotwozero]

Nov 9, 2011 5:05:51 GMT -5 pedroscollection said:

Sorry for mis interpreting Joseph statement for that word "cheapening". I stand corrected on that.

Yes, we all agree that historical reenacting is NOT cosplaying.

Thanks Perry, although apologies are not necessary. I just wanted to explain my side. Glad that we are in agreement about reenacting and Cosplaying.

I will no longer address your other points as I feel they are not directed to me.

Joseph

[pedroscollection]

For the sake of sharing about ACCURACY:

We are aware that many parts of our uniform & equipment are not 100% accurate. I know my belt on the Igorot Constabulary should be the Phil-Am War cartirdge belt. I know my rifle is not an American Krag rifle. But I do not have eh.... During the event, we can say to the people who ask that this parts are right, & this parts are not & needs improvement. But its not a reason for me to stop.

As David had said, the reenactment in the Philippnies is just starting. Even more restrictions, guns are not allowed so its very hard for us. I agree that all of us have limitation in accuracy & have rooms for improvement.

There are things that its better to say "Better have something (even not too accurate) than nothing at all". For example, my impression of a uniform is 80% accurate. We weight thing also seeing how many people will be educated by seeing this uniform which is new to them versus how many know that a certain part is in-accurate. If we all try to achieve 100% accurate before we start participating in events last 2005, .... we will not have gone this far, that the Armed Forces of the Philippines, the National Museums, the NHI, the schools, etc... have recognized our help in education, promoting nationalism, heroism & unity. Its good to participate & contribute in given opportunities while in parallel, we all try to be perfect, slowly correcting the details along the journey..

But this must not stop us to perform our events & other educational & patriotic cause just because we do not achieve 100% accuracy.

But take note, even in the US & Europe which reenactment are already established ;long long years age, we can see many in-accuracy.

1. Even though how accurate & nice & impressive the Napoleonic or Knights Templar or WWII uniform are, but when the reenactor is very fat... it lessens the over-all impact. Why Because majority of us are not soldiers & most of our lifestyle & work depends on computers, office works, etc... instead of manual / physical movement like what soldiers, farmers, carpenters / masons / construction workers.....You cannot say, "Hey next month event, you must remove your fat belly cause you don't look like a soldier". What if all your members have fat belly? Or you cannot accept only well fit reenactors & with age limit, maybe you will not have any members at all.

2. Even though how accurate & nice the uniforms are with combined tanks, planes etc, etc... I found photos not convincing. For example in a battle scene, the soldiers aiming rifles to the enemy, but their expressions are smiling, very cool , etc... The expressions should be tense. Why? Many of us do not enroll in a drama work shop to know what is the right expresssions. Even me, having an expression of an angry soldier for example, but when the photo came out, my face look like smiling ha-ha-ha.

3. Even though how accurate & nice the uniforms are with combined tanks, planes etc, etc... but when age age not proper, it affects the accuracy. 1 platoon of British Napoleonic in line with ranks of private to corporal, the age should be around 16 to 30, but reenactors there age 40-60. Why?? As mentioned also by the British reenactor of LRRP, the age 30-50 are the age of a stable man with stable job & family & have time & enough savings for a hobby, versus a newly graduate man with a new job or starting to have a family.

4. Even Hollywood films like the latest Pearl Harbor, experts noticed that the Jap planes they used were not Zero Fighters, but US planes painted like a Jap plane with some modifications also. I did not notice that, but the experts & scale modellers seen that. Why?? Lack of resources, cost will be high to reproduce zero fighters, etc, etc.



My point is not more of an excuse for we are aware of the room for improvement. The point is, we have certain limits of accuracy & even reenactment veterans have rooms for improvement. That's why polite & humble comments, critics & suggestions are very well appreciate & accepted which recipient will take it positive & constructive & not as an insult for us to maintain our mutual friendship.. In this way we can help each other. Let us continue our journey on a hobby that have a good cause.

Mabuhay tayong lahat / Salamat po;
Perry

[RayAdillO]

First of all, congratualtions to all who made it in that milsim event.

My personal favortie is the 100% accurate uniform of the Philippine Scout NCO wearing qualification badges and sleeve hash marks...SIMPLY FANTASTIC!

Secondly, I understand there's going to be a more 'formal" engagment this coming saturday?

For formal parties, I suggest a more formal type of uniform, type "A"s are the best.

If you have no type "A" jackets, the long sleeve khakis and pants will do, just wear ties (black or khaki). Wear garrison belts etc. No need to wear combat webbing, suspenders, gas mask bags, or ammo pouches, canteens, or the steel helmets, etc. It's like wearing "walking out" dress uniforms instead of full campaign gear.

Piss cutter (overseas caps), pershing caps, guinit helmets, or felt "smokey bear" hats will go nicely with you "walking out" khakis.

If you are wearing riding pants or jodphurs, its better to wear riding boots or putees (wrap around leggings), but not the canvas leggings as they are normally worn for combat order.

If you are wearing the usual "straight" pants, just wear them as is with short or "ankle length" brown boots. (no need to tuck in pants into boots.

Officer's type "A"s, are always worn with shirt and tie underneath, sam browne belts (swords optional), NCOs normally wear just brown leather belts. If NCOs/enlistedmen have no brown belt, the canvas khaki ammo belt will do. (with no canteen or first aid pouch attahced).

You may wear pistol holsters and ammo pouch for M 1911 pistol.

[pedroscollection]

Thanks Ray; - that will be a great help.