moroni
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Post by moroni on Sept 5, 2011 7:48:47 GMT -5
I found this book at the public library in lipa city, Batangas and have read it back in the 90's. It was written by Allison Ind who was a military Intelligence officer for the U.S. Army Air Corp. He was one of the lucky officers who got out of the Philippines from Mindanao on a B17 with General MacArthur.  On this page 123, forth paragraph, the author mentions seeing a German Messerschmitt. (I apologize for the poor scan)  And mentions it again in the second paragraph of this page of 139.  |
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Post by cco23i on Sept 5, 2011 11:57:17 GMT -5
MMMM, interesting. I'd like to see more on this.
Scott
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Post by VeeVee on Sept 5, 2011 21:57:50 GMT -5
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moroni
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Post by moroni on Sept 6, 2011 5:51:43 GMT -5
I apologize Veevee for posting this here instead of the "Books and suggested reading" section. I asked my daughter to scan and upload this without further instruction as to where she should put it.
About the book, it is very detailed and informative from an officer who wrote and published it a couple of years after his experience. Mostly from the Air Corps point of view.
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Post by 79thfoot on Sept 19, 2011 3:07:53 GMT -5
Could it possibly have been a Hien (Tony) - they were apparently in service as early as the Doolittle Raid...
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moroni
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Post by moroni on Sept 23, 2011 0:18:34 GMT -5
You are most probably right. I did some checking and the Kawasaki Ki-61 Hein which was mistaken for the Messerschmitt Bf- 109 or as they code named it (Tony) as it resembles the Italian aircraft.
The swapping of intel and technology between Germany, Italy and Japan.
Captain C. Ross Greening spotted this Kawasaki Ki-61 Hein during the Doolittle raid and even before that as mentioned in this book around December 1941. So probably some intrepid, hot shot fighter pilot from the Imperial Japanese Army Air Force was putting it to the test here in the Philippines.
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Post by labrador on Sept 23, 2011 0:46:12 GMT -5
I was thinking the same thing. just didn't know they were fielded that early.
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Post by 79thfoot on Sept 23, 2011 22:15:09 GMT -5
The official service entry dates are usually toward the latter part of 1942 and early 1943 but since Greening saw them as early as that, it shows that they were in home defense service in squadron strength as early as April 1942 and perhaps field testing would have been carried out even earlier than that on an individual basis. Colonel Ind wrote this in 1944 and while knowledge of the Ki-61 would have been available since the mid-late part of 1942, I don't think he'd have been willing to speculate as to exactly what kind of plane the 'Messerschmidt 109 was or to change his mind.
It's like, he saw what he saw and he's sticking to the story!
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