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Post by indiosbravos on Jan 25, 2011 13:54:04 GMT -5
I wondered how many movie props and costumes are being pass around and sold as Authentic ? Specially US Civil War and WW II?
Some movies are made late 40's and others earlier than that. Age and vintage look won't be a problem since most of them will be at least 50 years old....
Just a thought....
Not the same but related :
Read ATF article on Battling Fraud... Very interesting....
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Post by VeeVee on Jan 26, 2011 13:45:35 GMT -5
It may not be as much of a problem. I'm guessing the old time movie props were either real originals or simulated for looks and not quality. No manufacturer tags, not milspec construction -- basically easy to spot as a prop. I'm not sure of course but the good quality reproductions may be a more recent phenomenon to serve the growing WW2 reenactment hobby, and it's only recently that movie productions started using these reproductions. Not 100% certain but that would be my guess.
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Post by RayAdillO on Jan 27, 2011 1:58:20 GMT -5
Hey Indiosbravos, speaking of "props", many thanks for the bovril you sent me. Hiyang hiya na ako sa iyo. I've been such a "chav", but I'll start work on the helmets again very soon. BOVRIL ON BREAD AND BODDINGTON..THE PERFECT FIELD RATION!
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Post by Rogue2 on Jan 27, 2011 14:51:56 GMT -5
Hey Ray
I was wondering if you are making any more Phil Army pith helmets and uniforms as I would like to create an impression on this
Ramil
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Post by indiosbravos on Jan 28, 2011 19:19:34 GMT -5
@ Vic that's true you know, I remembered watching Pawn Stars and one of their experts mentioned a Mc Clellan saddles being used in the movie.
@ Ray - A bitter with a bitter lol. You're a real Brit Trooper....
Loved the " advert " you don't mind me using this and sending this to my Brit Friends do you? I normally put Bovril in hot water, Marmite on my Toast, not really a fan of Bitter....
Glad you enjoyed it. No worries last year I've been busy so I don't need it and besides I can see you've been busy helping the Phil Chapter not to mentioned your own personal loss ( God Bless his soul ) so I perfectly understand. It's just a shame my sched in Cali was really tight and I was not able to meet you guys before your departure for Phil.
Regards,
Lawrence
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Post by RayAdillO on Jan 31, 2011 0:47:23 GMT -5
I'd be honored indosbravos if you could show it to your other buddies from dear ol' blighty, he, he. BTW could I send your helmets to that Torrance address?
Rougue2, sure thing. It's always good to have a PA as well as a PS impression. I'll see you at the PS reunion or FortMac, whichever comes first.
Ray
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Post by indiosbravos on Jan 31, 2011 18:37:44 GMT -5
Ray I have a friend who will come here ( UK ) on April 7, he's in Modesto. I think this is much better if this is ok with you...
Cheers in advance.
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Post by insurrectomad on Jan 26, 2012 2:49:01 GMT -5
I agree about the old Army uniforms. in the 1950's there was such a glut of surplus military clothing that "Army Surplus" stores mushroomed everywhere. Only after the 1980's did stores cease to have stocks of Brit. Army leather jerkins and cav./motorcyclist gauntlets. You were not a construction worker without them. Why do you think the T-shirt was such a hit in Europe! German leather field boots cost a fraction of the cost of new riding boots. Now almost every item required for a film is newly made and only the star actor's are well made. Everything that once was brass is now resin or plastic. When I was at College we did the same as Mick jagger and the R. Stones and purchased Do-mob suits when they flooded the market for a 5th less than the inferior quality material of a suit from a store. I got a Harris Tweed 3 piece for £4 and my girlfriend converted the "Oxford- bags' wide trousers to Elvis Drainpipes for me. I'm sure in 10yrs time the market will be full of desert uniforms from the Iraq & Afghan Wars.
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Post by 26th on Jan 26, 2012 11:22:10 GMT -5
Yes some things were sold as movie props but were originals.
Like all of John Wayne's Cavalry movies. They were done in the late 30's and 40's when the cavalry was going out and the government sold the equipment. The studios were way ahead of their times. They bought all that stuff and some.
After WW2 they bought tons of surplus equipment and in the movies, really blew them up. Of course you can only do that for so many movies before even surplus goes away.
Is a McClellan saddle that is made by a saddle company really a reproduction? It is just new not old. Some saddle companies that were around for over a hundred years are still making saddles.
It is a very interesting subject.
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