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Post by 79thfoot on Aug 16, 2010 3:28:19 GMT -5
Hello everyone, I've been checking Bill Combs' Los Rayadillos site and I was looking at the natty looking sergeant of the 70th Regimento de Magallanes: www.agmohio.com/images_LR/LR1270702awc.jpg... and I've always been assuming that he was wearing a stereotypical Rayadillo striped cloth uniform. Then I saw this in the Tropical Telegraph: www.agmohio.com/LR_new_tropical_telegraph_Number_1_July_2009.htmwww.agmohio.com/images_LR/LR11090803sm.jpgIts the uniform tunic of the 73rd Jolo Regiment and it's WHITE. I wonder now - would all the native regiments have worn white? Do you still remember the Jose Rizal movie? What did the firing squad wear? I think they were wearing rayadillos weren't they? Might the costume design have been wrong? I think that the assumption has long been that the Spanish troops were wearing rayadillos except for the Guardia Civil who were in dark blue. Perhaps that assumption was wrong? Best wishes, Tom
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Post by RayAdillO on Aug 16, 2010 4:17:55 GMT -5
Maybe its a "full dress" uniform specifically for "paseo" (walking out/ceremonials) , not meant for "marcha" (field manuvers). Likely, it is worn with a pillbox type headgear.
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Post by 79thfoot on Aug 16, 2010 23:18:30 GMT -5
Hello guys,
I contacted Macky and Selwyn back home and they were of a similar opinion. It might have been during a transitory period from dark blue to rayadillo to white where some troops might have had newer uniforms and some still had the older ones. That would definitely be quite normal for colonial troops particularly those in the Philippines who were so far away from the 'mother country'. I've been wanting to do that uniform for a while (70th Magallanes Regiment) so I'm thinking I'll have a white and a raya version.
Thanks guys, Tom
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Post by 79thfoot on Aug 16, 2010 23:30:45 GMT -5
video48.blogspot.com/2009/12/december-30-rizal-execution-reenactmnet.htmlApparently Marilou Diaz-Abaya's researcher thought that the 70th Regiment was dressed in white as well. Note the white coats of the native soldados of the 70th in front of the rayadillo clad Spanish squad behind them. However, there are also indios in rayadillo holding back the crowds. No regimental numbers on the tunics it seems though. Curiouser and curiouser. Tom
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Post by RayAdillO on Aug 17, 2010 5:56:53 GMT -5
Units stationed in metropolitan Spain wore an entirely different service uniform....blue tunic, gray overcoat, red pants, and a white shako called "ros" often with black leather cover to protect it from dirt and grime. Photo of Spanish soldier in "peninsular" service. Photo of troops newly arrived from Spain marching along Pasig river to start their tour in the Philippines...no rayadillos yet, just their white gorro de cuartel softcaps and dark uniforms. So officially at least, the milraya was the Spanish military equivalent of tropical fatigues (in use since the 1870s) . Regiments raised specifically in the Philippines like the "70th Magallanes" must certainly have had their issue rayadillo. For "grungier" tasks like ditch digging etc., they would have a blue blouse or some cheap "cheese cloth" undershirts. But immaculate whites?....well tailored and flush with a full set of shiny brass buttons and insignia like that picture in the website? I think that's for tropical gala occasions and the like. Note halbardeirs from the same artillery regiment, rayadillo for "De Diario" and white for "Gala". Whites during regimental mass..... My guess on the pinoy firing squad detail assigned to execute Don Jose?.....most wore milraya, either the sun shined too brightly on the two squaddies nearest the camera or their uniforms have been washed so often or they were actually white, but that's just two of them in the immediate firing squad. BTW 79thfoot, we missed you at the last Fort Mac....no GC vet to help restore public order in the Spanish camp, he, he.
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Post by 79thfoot on Aug 18, 2010 2:06:42 GMT -5
Many, many thanks Rayadillo that makes perfect sense =) That makes me feel a lot better about everything, particularly this rayadillo I'm working on hehehe. I think that maybe the sergeant was wearing his gala uniform for the photograph. About Fort Mac... ah, I fear this year yes there was no Guardia Civil on patrol. There was however a good sized Royal Navy contingent to keep those villainous pirates in their place... sorta: I was looking for you guys actually but I think you weren't at the PS tent when I passed by: pinoyhistory.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=photosreenacting&thread=1497&page=1Salutes, Tom
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