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Post by OneZero on Jul 22, 2006 10:29:16 GMT -5
I think it would be better if we post all the ww2 tank pictures in one thread, as we might be going off-topic in some of the other threads...and also, it would be a lot easier to find for future reference. so, here are some pics i took at the PMA grounds last Aug.2004. here's a couple of shots of the Sherman and the Priest It is sad to see that these tanks are not really maintained very well. I just think that the PMA can do a better job than what it is right now, being a military institute and all.
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Post by VeeVee on Jul 22, 2006 19:00:59 GMT -5
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Post by kalbs on Jul 22, 2006 21:25:47 GMT -5
The only M41 I ever saw was at Fort Riley Kansas....at the end of a firing range blown to pieces by 105's, TOWs and Dragons
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Post by legionnaire on Jul 23, 2006 3:14:36 GMT -5
VFP Musuem (Veterans For Peace) Veterans Road, Tuguig (Western Bicutan) Tel 2-838-5312Hours: Monday-Friday, 7am - noon, 1 - 4 pm 100 pesos admission This Museum is located in the VFP Hospital and services area. Built by the board of trustees of the Verans of WWII on December 8, 1999 (58th anniversry of the Japanese attack on the Philippines) by President Estrada. OneZero great photos of the Sherman at PMA. I'm glad it's still there but the Mustang is now gone. I remember my first visit to PMA and climbed over that Tank and as a kid saw how deep the floor of that atnk was and got into the turrest floor and the driver's seat too. We could rotate the turrest and elevate the gun too. Thanks for this memorable pics. Philip
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Post by VeeVee on Jul 23, 2006 9:02:45 GMT -5
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Post by kalbs on Jul 24, 2006 8:24:03 GMT -5
I have the Marui Tiger...it's awsome
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Post by milspec on Jul 24, 2006 11:17:52 GMT -5
Good afternoon gentlemen,
Hi, OneZero. Great photos of the Sherman and the Priest at the PMA. It looks like it was pouring really hard that day. Its nice to know that they are still there and they look intact. They must have repainted the tanks. I remember them to be olive green. They look like they've been repainted a very deep green, almost black or maybe its just the rain. Do the ropes mean that they are off limits now? BY the way where are they located now? Did you get pictures of the LVT in the background?
milspec
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Post by milspec on Jul 24, 2006 11:45:19 GMT -5
Greetings Philip,
That's a great shot of the M-5 "Stuart". Thanks for posting it. It looks fairly intact and complete. I never knew that we still had that WWII relic in the Philippines. My question is : Did the Philippine Army or for that matter the Philippine Navy use M-5s after the war. I know that we used M4 Sherman tanks, M-18 Hellcats and supposedly 1 M-10 tanks destroyer but I haven't heard or seen photos of the M-5 in Philippine Army/Navy use. If not then this was left over from WWII by the US. Oh yeah, My brother mentioned that there is another M-5 on display in Manila. Its at a new Veterans museum somewhere(I'm not sure) in Cainta/Muntinlupa(?). He says the tank in front of the museum entrance displayed with some artillery pieces. He says the tank does not have its engine anymore. I have some pictures of a restored M-5 and SHerman tank here in the US. Would you be interested in seeing them? That's a nice looking model of the M-5. Did your friend build it from scratch or is there a kit available. If its 1/6th scale then it should the compatible with the GI Joe figures or the better figures that you custom build.
milspec
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Post by legionnaire on Jul 24, 2006 12:39:57 GMT -5
Hi Milspec,
The photos sent to me by Mardon would know more who saw that Stuart I have no idea what was this Stuart's history was in the Philippines.
The 1/6 Stuart is made by 21st Century who use to make 1/6 or 12 inch figures and their most recent editions are RC. Which I also have. They were available in walmart for $150.
Thanks for offering but have seen so many US Armour in militaria shows & Tank museums here in California too already.
Philip
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Post by OneZero on Jul 25, 2006 9:00:21 GMT -5
Hey Philip! Thanks, i don't know if the P-51 is still there or maybe i just didn't see it around that area. Too bad if it is really gone...i like that plane, it's the 'cadillac of the skies'. Hey milspec! Thanks and yep, it was really pouring that day and that's the only chance i got to see the tanks and take these pics. The color of the tanks might look darker bec. of the rain. i think people can still go up to the tank. The tanks are located near an entrance gate (i'm not sure if it's the main one) and it is on an elevated portion in between the two roads that leads into the PMA grounds. Sorry, i did not get any other pic of the LVT...i was so busy looking at the Sherman. here is the monument near the entrance gate and the tanks are displayed at an area behind this. 1-0
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Post by legionnaire on Aug 2, 2006 0:02:59 GMT -5
Nice pic of Monument in PMA ! Thanks for sharing. before after! ;D Philip
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Post by VeeVee on Aug 2, 2006 22:13:05 GMT -5
You should have also taken a funny shot of you being run over by it (grin)
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Post by legionnaire on Aug 2, 2006 22:23:53 GMT -5
I wanted one riding on it but it was not allowed! Ray to the photo. Philip
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Post by milspec on Sept 5, 2006 10:17:04 GMT -5
Greetings Philip,
I've just been back from Seattle for my sisters wedding. I've been busy helping out with the wedding preparations prior to the wedding. I've been looking for that 1/6 M5A1 at various Walmarts but have been out of luck. Most of what I've seen were these 1/32nd German WWII tanks. They look great and already pre-painted and assembled not bad for about $15. They even have these incredible 1:144 tanks. I was hoping to go to the Fort Lewis museum but they were closed on mondays and tuesdays. I was able to go to a nearby surplus store and purchased an M1928 Haversack. Looks fine but all the hardware is rusted out and the straps have rust stains. I might have to get new hardware or restore the original ones. I got it for $32.00. It was manufactured in 1942. So I guess this might be good for a late war or liberation collection. There was an M1 bayonet for $70.00. I didn't know if that was reasonable so I passed on that one. There were a lot of modern stuff but pretty expensive too.
milspec
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Post by legionnaire on Sept 5, 2006 22:26:52 GMT -5
Hi Milspec,
I've been looking for that 1/6 M5A1 at various Walmarts but have been out of luck.
Yes they are harder and harder to find.
I was able to go to a nearby surplus store and purchased an M1928 Haversack. Looks fine but all the hardware is rusted out and the straps have rust stains. I might have to get new hardware or restore the original ones. I got it for $32.00. It was manufactured in 1942. So I guess this might be good for a late war or liberation collection.
What you can do is get those late war suspenders that may have much better conditioned metal clips that you can replace to the rusted ones. That's what I did and those suspenders I found in some surplus stores really cheap. What I also did in mine was gently wash the haversack with just water first. If you need to use soap use dish washing soap and not laundry soap as those are very strong chemicals that will erase the khakii color immedietly.
There was an M1 bayonet for $70.00. I didn't know if that was reasonable so I passed on that one.
What was the condition of the bayonet? Was this the long version?
Philip
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Post by milspec on Sept 7, 2006 10:12:38 GMT -5
Greetings Philip,
Thanks for the advice. Maybe I'll do what you recommended but then what will I do with the late war suspenders. I guess I'll still have to restore the rusty hardware. I guess they were reserving the brass for more important items than just hooks for the haversacks. I read somewhere that wartime gear wasn't really designed to last that long. Would you recommend the rust remover by Ritz. I saw it at Walmart but haven't used it before. A friend of mine recommended just brushing of the storage dust and dirt with a brush. He says that washing might weaken the fabric considering its more than 60 years old. I have come across some WWII stuff which had dry rot. The fabric would just fall apart if you held it. Luckily the haversack's canvas is still serviceable. My problem now is the buckles and d-rings that are fixed into place by the retaining straps. I don't know how to replace those. I can probably clean the exposed areas but those covered by the straps, I don't know what to do.
The M1 bayonet I saw was practically mint. The scabbard had this flat light olive green color with minimal scratches the blade was the same finish as the handle and the blade hadn't been sharpened yet. It had a stamp AFH, no date at the base of the blade near the guard/bayonet ring. It was about a 10 inch blade not the longer 16 inch blade. According to the dealer it is an original WWII M1 bayonet and not a cut-down M1905.
milspec
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Post by legionnaire on Sept 7, 2006 23:57:49 GMT -5
I bough a cheap late war suspenders to replace all the metal fasteners/clips. As the rusted pnes are so badly deteriorated they will not last. As for replacing the rusted D rings that is very hard to replace unless you can find a very good shoe repairman that can redo the stiching which I have found one to repair my webbings.
If you only use water to wash and gently scrub then it should work safely. a sit depends really on the condition of that canvass. As I have washed with mild dish washing soap only. It cleaned my WWI haversack, straps and pouches very well with no damage or extreme fading.
Philip
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Post by armyjunk on Feb 2, 2007 17:41:40 GMT -5
Hello everyone, How many Japanese Tanks do you all know of preserved in the Philippines? I have posted some here, any additions would be helpful. If you post here I will be happy to repost there and credit you for the pictures, or just Email to me at Armyjunk1@aol.com. Thanks a lot www.com-central.net/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=5523
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Post by armyjunk on Feb 11, 2007 18:44:49 GMT -5
Here are some out of the way armor pictures from my trips to the Philippines, the ID's might be correct, right click and save to see ID. please feel free to correct....... Philippine Military Academy, Baguio, Luzon, Philippines Public Park, Lingayen Gulf, Luzon, Philippines Military Museum at Capas, Luzon, Philippines Philippine Veterans Museum, Manila, Philippines Fort Hughes, Caballo Island, Philippines This is the remains of a Sherman on the beach at Fort Hughes, Fort Hughes is located very close to Corregidor
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Post by VeeVee on Feb 11, 2007 21:31:42 GMT -5
Thanks for the pictures. When was that photo of the Japanese tank at Villa Escudero taken? I was there in 1998 and I don't remember the soldier's statue.
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