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Post by VeeVee on Jul 2, 2006 12:31:15 GMT -5
This example is for the M1928 haversack which was not used in the Philippines by the Scouts at the time of Bataan. The one they used was the M1910 which is very similar except for the button closure on the meat can pouch. The M1910 also has just one strap at the back that snaps into the cartridge belt. There is no difference in the way the two are packed. dansww2picturesite.netfirms.com/page2.html |
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Post by legionnaire on Jul 3, 2006 23:23:27 GMT -5
If the two were 95 % identical except for the button vs strap atttachment on the meat pouch. It did not matter to the US military to issue either considering the Philippine scouts were also given the latest Garand rifles? Then a 1928 Haversack would have been available to Filipino infantryman.
The 1928 haversack being a later model would have been possible issued to Philippine troops a lot more than the Garand rifles, considering the US military didn't care what model of gear was issued but what was available to equip at least a division of Filipino troops of several thousands or the entire Philippine Army which was a rather huge standing Army.
Philip
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Post by VeeVee on Jul 4, 2006 0:30:12 GMT -5
True it's possible, it's just that I've only seen the 1910 haversacks in photographs. Also I think I came across some reference that while the M1928 haversack was created in 1928, they were not produced in quantity until much later like about 1941 and would have been late to make it to the Philippines, but that could have been pure conjecture by someone else. All I know is that early war photos I've seen showed M1910 haversacks with the button meat can closure being used. If you already have a 1928 one, it could easily be made to look like a 1910 by just changing the meat can pouch. The strap in the back is not visible anyway. Or you can use your 1928 haversack but I haven't seen a photo of them used in the Bataan era but that doesn't mean they weren't there. The use of the Garands were well documented though. Almost any book about the campaign would invariably mention their issue and use at some point. I think they were first issued to the scouts in March of 1941. Some period photos also showed Garands being used. EDIT: Heey... check this out. It says the Phil Division had 1928 haversacks but that they used 1903 rifles. I know the 1903 rifle claim is wrong. But what about the 1928? Click here |
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Post by legionnaire on Jul 5, 2006 1:31:19 GMT -5
I just got today a 1910 mess tin pouch with the single button! ;D to replace my 1928 pouch.
Philip
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Post by VeeVee on Jul 5, 2006 21:45:32 GMT -5
Wow that was quick! Where did you get it from? From a flea market? Surplus store? Ebay?
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Post by legionnaire on Jul 5, 2006 23:40:53 GMT -5
Militaria store here in LA And an Enfield bayonet for my rifle. Also just got a MAS 36 rifle this 4th of July. ;D
Philip
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