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Post by VeeVee on Jul 13, 2006 21:54:06 GMT -5
There is still some artistry involved in putting together a good guerrilla impression but I imagine it would be cheaper (and maybe faster) to put together than a Scout or Phil. Army since anything goes in terms of clothes and equipment. Here are some reference photos: guerrilla1 (You don't even need shoes with this impression!) guerrilla2guerrillas3 (Notice the motley collection: M1 helmet, 1917 helmet, garand, 1903, Japanese machinegun, etc) |
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Post by legionnaire on Jul 13, 2006 22:09:13 GMT -5
 How about this! ;D Capt. Pajota!  Ang layo nito with your actual B & W pics! ;D |
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Post by mish on Sept 13, 2008 2:01:36 GMT -5
Even more minimalist; lots of work to be done hair-wise, though. The caption for this one was "Philippine Guerilla Scout" - I'm not sure if that meant a "former Philippine Scout turned guerilla" or "A Guerilla group's scout." Note that large piece of gear/pouch to his left... what is that? WW2 E-tool carrier?  |
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Post by VeeVee on Sept 13, 2008 8:38:54 GMT -5
Yes I think that's an e-tool.
I think when I go ahead and put together a guerrilla impression... I'll use an arisaka as a "captured" weapon. I just don't know what touches will make it apparent to onlookers that the imression is supposed to be a Filipino Guerrilla. Maybe I'll make a dummy "I Shall Return" cigarettes. Any other ideas?
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Post by 79thfoot on Sept 13, 2008 11:36:45 GMT -5
Hmmmm.... straw hat with a PS pin or something? I shall return gear sounds good. Maps of your area in the Philippines, maybe some captured Japanese documents. Like the guerrilla group which captured the Japanese naval chief of staff just before Leyte Gulf.
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Post by mish on Sept 13, 2008 20:42:06 GMT -5
I think when I go ahead and put together a guerrilla impression... I'll use an arisaka as a "captured" weapon. I just don't know what touches will make it apparent to onlookers that the imression is supposed to be a Filipino Guerrilla. Maybe I'll make a dummy "I Shall Return" cigarettes. Any other ideas? Yup the I Shall Return ciggies (and chocolate bars!) would be a nice touch. Consider a buri hat, camisa de chino and a bolo secured by Manila hemp too. Lastly, the native backpack of the people of the Cordilleras, the pasiking, would add to the distinctively Pinoy look:  In general, guerrilas/partisans were photographed wearing clothes and using gear that lent some similarity to their regular army, etc counterparts, eg: Tito's partisans in Yugoslavia eerily look like Stalin's troops in the Great Patriotic War; French partisans used Pattern '37 Brit gear, Chinese communist urban guerillas looked pretty much like their comrades in Mao's Eighth Route Army; and of course, the VC used NVA, aside from captured U.S. gear. |
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Post by filipinownz on Sept 19, 2009 11:10:07 GMT -5
I plan on making a guerrilla impression, I'd like to base it off of Capt. Juan Pajota's gear during the Cabanatuan Raid. Are there any references that can be available to me or better yet where in California Bay Area can I get any items (be it clothing to slings and bags) remotely related.
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Post by legionnaire on Sept 19, 2009 11:54:21 GMT -5
Daly City? I don't know if there is a "Tatak Pinoy" Philippine Handicraft store in that part of town. See if there is a Filipino business directory yellow pages book, check around for those neighborhood Filipino newspapers at popular Pinoy restaurants in Daly city.
As for doing a Capt. Juan Pajota impression the only one I know who have all those info on his guerrila days would be his wife in the Philippines.
Hope this helps.
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Post by greatcardinal on Sept 19, 2009 14:08:12 GMT -5
That store was closed like a few years ago. There's a filipino store at Vallejo close to Seafood city that sells native filipino stuff.
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Post by filipinownz on Sept 19, 2009 15:24:20 GMT -5
greatcardinal Oh. That's pretty far. I'm from San Jose so it'd be a challenge to get them. legionnaire Alright then. I don't feel real comfortable about asking that, but its ok if I don't get it perfect. I just have no idea what is needed for a basic Guerrilla's impression.
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Post by RayAdillO on Sept 19, 2009 16:19:41 GMT -5
Native Philippine items are not an absolute necessity, although they do help establish the Philippine setting. Those "traditional" things you see on the market are actually modern touristy adaptations.
Ex. The native "haversack" is traditionally smaller than that which is advertized, and seldon seen outside of the mountain provinces.
Guerillas pretty much use whatever is available, as long as they fit the late 30s early 40s mix of civilian and military period wear in tropical climates. Even Japanese items "liberated" from their erstwhile owners would be more of the norm I suspect.
Ex. High wasteline front-pleated civilian baggy pants (folded at the ends). Shorts of the period are also cut with a high waistline. Shirts are usually body fitted. Period "sportshirts" are like modern ones today except that the short sleves do not have "blousing" and are cut closer to the shoulders, (exposing more biceps?).
Japanese canteen, boots, haversack, Arisaka rifle are okay. 45 caliber pistols are also useful as they were easy to hide (for assasination missions against axis collaborators). Thompsons were perhaps not as common with guerillas as may be suggested in the movies. Local bolos or farmer's "gulok" are a must.
A U.S. Army khaki cotton overseas cap would also do nicely, they were handy to keep and usually the last surving item of original military uniform which lasted from the time of the Japanese invasion.
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