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Post by VeeVee on Apr 10, 2008 15:58:37 GMT -5
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Post by legionnaire on Apr 10, 2008 16:28:03 GMT -5
Nice pics posted Vic!
Somebody's gotta to do an impression and tribute to Capt. Pajota. without his crucial support and advise the most successful rescue in US military history would not have been.
I read somewhere he applied for US citizenship late after the war and only was granted when he had long passed away. sad and undeserving.
Philip
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Post by 26th on Apr 10, 2008 16:28:55 GMT -5
Hey Victor
Where is this at? I like those jeeps. Should up mine to a WW2 but I still want to do Korea.
Lots of scouts by the fire engines.
Rudy
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Post by VeeVee on Apr 10, 2008 21:30:37 GMT -5
These were in New Jersey.
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Post by mish on Oct 31, 2009 23:43:24 GMT -5
I'm currently putting up a 6th Rangers/Alamo Scouts mannequin - my first stab at an "all-green" kit display.
Would anyone know what would go with an OD#7 M1936 cartridge belt? I currently have it hooked up to M1943 suspenders, but am seriously doubting if that's the way to go for an enlisted guy.
Would the following be ok options?
- Hook the green garand belt to an M1928 haversack? (hopefully i find a far-from-khaki pack)
- Do an officer type so the combination would be green pistol belt + green suspenders + green musette, etc?
Any suggestion appreciated. Thanks, guys!
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Post by VeeVee on Nov 1, 2009 21:09:35 GMT -5
Hi Mish, I'm not an expert on this impression but I think it doesn't have to be all green. Khaki and green were very commonly mixed and matched at that stage of the war.
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Post by mish on Nov 2, 2009 21:16:14 GMT -5
Yup, I could go the mix-match route for sure. This is pure trip/whim, Vic. I was so hooked on OD#9 tan/sand while building P.S. that I thought: "...might be fun assembling an all-OD#7 late-war green rig."
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Post by mandres on Nov 6, 2009 10:10:19 GMT -5
I agree the "mixed greens" would be the best. For load bearing,
Stewart's (Stewartsmilitaryantiques.com) has some cool improved M1936 suspenders that have both OD#3 and OD#7 pieces sewn on. Special units like the Rangers or Alamo Scouts issued their men load bearing suspenders, beyond that called for on the MTO&E. Check out the photos in Larry Alexander's "Shadows in the Jungle." There's two post-Cabanatuan raid photos of the teams, all with suspenders...
As a collector, I know you want to add to your personal museum, so maybe consider the jungle field pack. The early model all-green jungle packs have been going relatively cheap on ebay. Again, Alexander references them in his book; but I'm not sure if he means THE jungle pack, or merely using "jungle" as an adjective...
In the midwest, I'm usually the only Pacific Army impression, so I wear the Philippine Scout impression and lay-out a later war American impression. The public can then easily see the development of uniforms & equipment. I tell ya brother, the khakis & M1917a1 helmet are a magnet for the public--and once they come over, I hit 'em with the Philippine history...
Respectfully,
Matt
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Post by legionnaire on Nov 6, 2009 19:32:46 GMT -5
Great effort Matt. I hope you can post some pics in your PS! Khaki's and the Kelly Helmet pre war Uniform.
It's a very interesting part of US Philippine history specially the peace time/ pre war Philippine commonwealth period has been forgotten and not been portrayed much.
Philip
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Post by mish on Nov 7, 2009 21:57:45 GMT -5
I agree the "mixed greens" would be the best. For load bearing, Stewart's (Stewartsmilitaryantiques.com) has some cool improved M1936 suspenders that have both OD#3 and OD#7 pieces sewn on. Special units like the Rangers or Alamo Scouts issued their men load bearing suspenders, beyond that called for on the MTO&E. Check out the photos in Larry Alexander's "Shadows in the Jungle." There's two post-Cabanatuan raid photos of the teams, all with suspenders... As a collector, I know you want to add to your personal museum, so maybe consider the jungle field pack. The early model all-green jungle packs have been going relatively cheap on ebay. Again, Alexander references them in his book; but I'm not sure if he means THE jungle pack, or merely using "jungle" as an adjective... In the midwest, I'm usually the only Pacific Army impression, so I wear the Philippine Scout impression and lay-out a later war American impression. The public can then easily see the development of uniforms & equipment. I tell ya brother, the khakis & M1917a1 helmet are a magnet for the public--and once they come over, I hit 'em with the Philippine history... Respectfully, Matt Thanks for the reply, mandres. Nice leads. About the suspenders, are you referring to the transitional M1943 reinforced/cushioned shoulder straps, big D-rings suspenders (in some references they're referred to as M1936-modifieds)? Yup, that's what I've got on the mannequin ATM. If you're referring to the earlier M1936 with small D-rings, a transitional one would really be cool. Would you have a pic? I've been browsing Stewartsmilitaria but can't seem to find it. About the jungle pack, although I haven't seen any pics of the Cabanatuan raiders using them, I agree it would be nice having one sitting next to the rig for display purposes. Thanks again. |
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Post by mandres on Nov 13, 2009 19:44:02 GMT -5
No, you're right. I mixed my special units in the last post; Alexander's book has photos of the Alamo Scouts using the junble pack (still sort of applicable, since the Scouts had quite a few Filipinos)...Stewart's had the M1943 version in transition colors; I wonder if they're out...I'm not sure why, but I get all geeked out over the transition colored gear.
Respectfully,
Matt
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Post by insurrectomad on Nov 14, 2009 5:45:31 GMT -5
I've got my laptop hooked up to the internet again in Angeles, Pam. at last after weeks of sorting things out! Re. Capt. Pajota--- the US Army authorities lagged a long way behind in giving credit and support of the Fils contribution to the fighting in Phils. Even the Hollywood in the making of "The Great Raid" gave acknowledgement to the Filipino officer commanding the guerrilla forces and his men. A very rare thing to happen in any Hollywood movie. Most non American allies are portrayed as small-fry followers. Good Pics & effort Chaps! David
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Post by VeeVee on Nov 16, 2009 21:40:12 GMT -5
They had to, they played a major part of the successful raid. The group that was largely ignored in that movie were the Alamo Scouts. Too bad. They were the ones who provided the rangers all the scouting and intelligence information, otherwise they wouldn't have been able to formulate a plan for the raid.
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