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Post by beancent on Sept 20, 2007 22:47:05 GMT -5
when the first shot rang out on feb. 4,1899 around 8:30 in the evening, two filipino soldados dropped dead on a bridge we now know as Pinaglabanan. The soldier who fired the first shot was pvt. william grayson followed by pvt. miller of B Coy, 1st Nebraska Volunteers. As we all know it was a result of miscommunication or whatever they know of halt! Halto! Tigil! Hinto! Stop! Anyway, i just want to share the name of our kababayan who first fell that night, Cabo Anastacio Felix. I'm not sure if he's from the Morong Battalion, because this battalion was securing the east bank under then Col. Luciano San Miguel, the general who never surrendered to the stars and stripes and fell on Corral na Bato, Morong on March 1903.....
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Post by noy on Nov 4, 2007 3:27:26 GMT -5
Grayson's trigger finger was probably itching so bad he had to shoot someone
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Post by victoree on Nov 4, 2007 11:15:09 GMT -5
We just don't play games in the wild West. You want to play games, bad things are gonna happen.
They should have stopped.
Martin
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Post by legionnaire on Nov 4, 2007 13:40:23 GMT -5
The shooting incident that started the Philippine American war was at the San Juan/ Santa Mesa Bridge bordering the towns of San Juan and Santa Mesa. The Pingalabanan ( fought over) is several kilometers away a battle field site. These were located around some of my schools are and I travel passing them every day. It's really disgusting they have torn down the original bridge and a total lost as an important historical landmark in Philippine history by expanded it into new wider bridge to accomodate the traffic nightmare of Manila. Just saw it on Google Satellite imaging. Instead of preserving it and just building the new one nearby. Philip
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Post by VeeVee on Nov 4, 2007 15:22:49 GMT -5
It was bound to happen anyway... if it wasn't Grayson it would be someone else. Historians analyze events but I bet it was just a simple matter of a scared 18 year old private with a rifle with orders to guard a bridge. The event has probably played out dozens if not hundreds of times in present day Iraq conflict.
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Post by RayAdillO on Nov 5, 2007 21:41:16 GMT -5
Actually, tensions along the trenches around Manila demarcating Filipino and American lines were steadily getting worse as time went by. Filipinos would heckle and insult U.S. troops and the Americans would do the same.
The one unfortunate thing about the shooting incident at the San Juan bridge was that practially all the high ranking officers of the Filipino forces were away attending some town fiesta. So when the shooting started, it was practically impossible to stop it from spreading.
This was a serious tactical error on the part of Aguinaldo who knew how volatile the situation was all along.
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Post by legionnaire on Nov 5, 2007 22:32:51 GMT -5
Looking down the road was called N. Domingo Street which led to San Juan town proper, I grew up more or less one kilometer away from the Bridge opposite the San Juan Municipio. The waterworks which became the NAWASA reservior in San Juan. You can see the huge water pipes in the left side of the background from the upper most photo. Philip
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Post by VeeVee on Nov 7, 2007 7:03:06 GMT -5
Is this waterworks the one near Horseshow Village and at the back of the Magnolia plant?
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Post by beancent on Nov 7, 2007 11:16:55 GMT -5
nice pics legionnaire! i think the waterworks is the El Deposito which is located within the compound of the newly erected san juan museum fronting the san juan elementary school. the officers were attending a "baile" (dance) in bulacan and rushed to the battlefield in their gala attire! What a sight it was! I can only imagine...
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Post by beancent on Nov 7, 2007 14:06:31 GMT -5
I have this copy of a Philippine History picture book entitled "Philippine Saga". I'm not sure if it was published before WW2 because it only tackles pre-Hispanic times to the Fil-Am War. I'm not sure. Anyway just want to share some pics regarding this thread. Col. Luciano San Miguel (right with hands behind his back)in a word war with Col. Stotsenburg. Note the Filipino soldado standing at attention in this parlay.
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Post by legionnaire on Nov 7, 2007 17:05:09 GMT -5
Is this waterworks the one near Horseshow Village and at the back of the Magnolia plant?
Yes I know that one behind the Magnolia plant there is a NAWASA reservior with an gated entrance along N. Domingo going towards Santa Mesa Blvd. Those pipes propably lead to that reservior.
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Post by arnaldodumindin on Nov 8, 2007 23:54:08 GMT -5
The first shot of the Philippine-American War was not fired on San Juan Bridge but on Sosiego Street in Santa Mesa district, Manila. The Philippines' National Historical Institute (NHI) recognized this fact through Board Resolution 7 Series of 2003. On Feb. 4, 2004 the marker was removed from the bridge and transferred to a site at the corner of Sociego and Silencio Streets. The name of the first Filipino fatality of the war was Corporal Anastacio Felix of the 4th Company, Morong Battalion under Captain Serapio Narvaez. The battalion commander was Col. Luciano San Miguel. Please see my unfinished website on the Philippine-American War: www.freewebs.com/philippineamericanwar/
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Post by VeeVee on Nov 9, 2007 19:06:49 GMT -5
Arnaldo, that's good information! Thanks. What a great website you have. Keep it up and I hope it stays up. Welcome to the forum. Mabuhay! -victor
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Post by Eric Diaz on Dec 19, 2008 16:36:28 GMT -5
Legionnaire did you served in the France Foreign Legion??
I'm a Filipino who served with the unit.
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Post by legionnaire on Dec 19, 2008 17:08:57 GMT -5
Hello Eric,
Kamusta? Wow a genuine Filipino who served in the Legion. I am a military enthusiast and a have a huge facination with the legendary Legion Etrangere! Have read a nd studied a lot about their history and focused on it as a hobby. Also have two of their uniform impressions. I have been planning to join a legion reenactment group too based here in CAlifornia.
Please post photos of your Legion Service! It is extremely rare to find Pinoys in the Legion. I would like to know more about your experience first hand as a Pinoy. Were are you based? Ingat!
Philip
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Post by Eric Diaz on Dec 20, 2008 14:20:44 GMT -5
[/img]Hello; I served in the France Foreign Legion from 1985-1990. Did four tours with them; 2 years in French Guyane, came back for other 6 months, Chad and Gabon. During my time with the legion. I only met once Filipino. Surprisingly, there's not alot of Filipino in the legion having the Filipino economy so bad....you wonder why! I would also like to mention. I was in the Philippine ROTC scout ranger for 3 years before immigrated to Canada. I was 16 years old then, now 48. I'm leaving in Canada for the past 28 years. And a Canadian citizen since before the my Foreign Legion days. I also now serving with the Canadian forces army reserved (Part-time soldier). I just came back recently from afghanistan from 7 months tour. I got into this website by accident. Back in high school in the philippines. I wanted to write a book about the Philippine American War. I was so facinated with it. Back then, there where no internet. Now, there so much information and pictures available about the war. Eric [/img]
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Post by Eric Diaz on Dec 20, 2008 14:23:32 GMT -5
Hello;
I served in the France Foreign Legion from 1985-1990. Did four tours with them; 2 years in French Guyane, came back for other 6 months, Chad and Gabon. During my time with the legion. I only met once Filipino. Surprisingly, there's not alot of Filipino in the legion having the Filipino economy so bad....you wonder why!
I would also like to mention. I was in the Philippine ROTC scout ranger for 3 years before immigrated to Canada. I was 16 years old then, now 48.
I'm leaving in Canada for the past 28 years. And a Canadian citizen since before the my Foreign Legion days. I also now serving with the Canadian forces army reserved (Part-time soldier). I just came back recently from afghanistan from 7 months tour.
I got into this website by accident. Back in high school in the philippines. I wanted to write a book about the Philippine American War. I was so facinated with it. Back then, there where no internet. Now, there so much information and pictures available about the war.
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Post by Eric Diaz on Dec 20, 2008 14:28:23 GMT -5
How do i post the pictures? The "image insert" from the add tags does not give me the option to load images.
Eric
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Post by VeeVee on Dec 30, 2008 11:11:12 GMT -5
Hi Eric, Sorry for the late reply. The pictures need to be hosted somewhere else. You can email me some of them and I'll post them for you. Welcome to the forum. -victor
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Post by sumaquel on Oct 14, 2009 8:46:36 GMT -5
when the first shot rang out on Feb. 4,1899 around 8:30 in the evening, two Filipino soldados dropped dead on a bridge we now know as Pinaglabanan. The soldier who fired the first shot was pvt. William Grayson followed by pvt. miller of B Coy, 1st Nebraska Volunteers. As we all know it was a result of miscommunication or whatever they know of halt! Halto! Tigil! Hinto! Stop! Anyway, i just want to share the name of our kababayan who first fell that night, Cabo Anastacio Felix. I'm not sure if he's from the Morong Battalion, because this battalion was securing the east bank under then Col. Luciano San Miguel, the general who never surrendered to the stars and stripes and fell on Corral na Bato, Morong on March 1903..... Base from my document, Anastacio Felix was not part of Gen. Macapagal's Morong Command nor Part of Gen. Licerio Geronimo's "Third Zone" Command. He was actually part of Gen. Artemio Recarte's Second Zone Command of manila(He was under the command of a Major named Gray--most probably British or American defector--). This command were responsible then on the defense of Santa Ana and San Juan Del Monte when the fil-war erupted in manila. Here are some more account(Base on the unpublished report of Mssgr. Buencamino to the president of the Philippine Republic prior to the rupture of war)on the event that transpired on that evening of Feb. 4, 1899. Version 2 - The unpublished, untaught, practically unknown Filipino version: “On the 4th of February the towns of Santa Ana and San Juan Del Monte were under the command of General Ricarte and Colonel San Miguel. On this day those two commanders abandoned their posts and went to a ball, leaving a major by the name of Gray, about 26 years of age, very young and without experience, in command of about 1,800 troops. They extended along the eastern part of the outskirts of Manila and were about half a mile distant from the American troops. We took the deposition of this major, who said that about 9 o'clock p.m. the sergeant of the guard came to his headquarters and told him that a party of American troops desired to cross their lines or were attempting to cross their lines, which was opposed by the Philippine guards. At this time a shot was heard; that he could not say for certain whether the shot came from the American command or from the men under his command, but he ran to the place from which the shot appeared to come, and seeing the American troops in a belligerent attitude gave an order to fire. That is the way the hostilities began.” (Buencamino, 3)
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