Thank you gentlemen. It's all good. I promise I will not post anymore of these "casualties of war". I just wonder why they were photograped in the first place. Those were the times and we should all be thankful that we live in a more civilized world. We salute our ancestors...
It is spossible that some photos of enemy casualties in war are for trophy, but most are taken because of young men are curiously amazed by death. Few photos are taken of the dead of ones own troops because of the sadness of knowing some of these dead men. The first world war is a prime example of soldiers fascination with death. There are many photos of rotting corpses. Trophy photos are usually recognizable because there are soldiers posing with their victims. As with your photos of Filipino casualties this is not the case. Had the Filipino soldiers had more access to camers there would probably be more photos of U.S. casualties.
Although depressing to look at these tyes of photos have a wealth of historical information unique to each of them.
I will admit to taking pictures of insurgent and civilian casualtis in Baghdad during my tour. I did it because I wanted to show people back home how horrible and destructive war is.
Most websites I've seen had numerous Filipino soldiers dead or captured. Do we not have any photos of our wins? How about honoring some enemy dead or enemy captured? After all, they also fought valiantly...I hope. As much as Filipinos love taking "kodak" momentos, there has got to be some battlefield photos of our wins.
I do remember there is one photo of U.S. prisoners captured by Filipino forces. They were men (Marines/Sailors) captured from the ambush of that relief force which was sent by American authorities to rescue that Spanish garrison which was holding out at Baler.
They were pictured in ragged civilian clothing issued to them by the insurgents so they were no longer wearing their uniforms during capitivity, but they apparently looked well fed. I'm not exactly sure if the photo was taken during their capitvity or at the time they were paroled (released). I'll try to look for that photo again and post it as soon as I find it.
I think if I were one of the Filipino generals then, I would have opted to fight in the battle field. There were many more Filipinos than Americans, Filipinos had better rifles than the American krags, we knew the terrain better, we were battle hardened from fighting the Spaniards, we had able generals who were winning battles against the Americans at the begining of the war and we were defending the country. The Filipinos seemed to not have thought out the war well. Aguinaldo seemed to have fought the war qith hesitation...I think he was hoping for leniency from the Aericans. Filipinos could have won the war had they use diplomacy with the masonic bretheren in the US, aid from Germany and Japan and assistance in diplomacy from the Brits. Many civilians died because of the chnge in battle tactics to guerila warfare, mingling with civilians caused the enemy to suspect everyone including women and children.
Excuse me. The post on Feb, 8, 2010, was under my name (dante) but I didn't post it. It must have been crossed with some else's post. I wonder how this could have happened & whose post was that from? The date was strange too since I'm a recent member.
I remember reading a soldier's letter online a while back on Jim Zwick's website (unfortunately the letters were taken off after Mr. Zwick died) the American soldier was a POW of the Filipinos. He wrote that he was treated very well and was paid I think it was 2 centimos a day while he was held captive. It was unformtunate that there were not much photographers on the Filipino side. it would have been a good photo op.
Post by insurrectomad on Jan 8, 2011 21:31:07 GMT -5
You are correct to assume these photos were taken as "hunting trophies". as with all Western Imperialists at that time this was standard practice and continued through WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam and Iraq. The American police used to pose beside the dead bodies of gangsters, so it was a usual excepted custom. Remember the Yanks referred to Filipinos as "Slit-Eyed Niggas"! During a river crossing in the Boer War Some native porters carrying supplies across, were drowned and swept down river. " What a terrible loss!" the Adjutent was heard to say. "Yes Sir, 8 good fellows" his aid replied. " I was talking of the Loss of the ammo, you fool!" he replied. In WW2 some of the Yanks were pulling out the gold teeth of dead Japs. While re-enacting the Monmouth Rebellion battle in Somerset, my friends faithfully portrayed a loyalist regiment ( Col. Kirk Lambs Regt) actions on the battle field, Flogging the backs of the rebels womenfolk With mock blood applied to the rope whips and slaughtering with bayonet and sword all wounded prisoners, hanging the rest from the trees and pushing others into the d**es around the edges. Some of the crowd of spectators were horrified! We threw Eyes of our prisoners towards the spectators (Sheep's eyes got from the butchers). That was what took place at Sedgemore in 1685. so that was what we re-enacted out. What we didn't know was that Sedgemore and the surrounding towns are anti- Monarchy to this day and should the queen pass through that arrear all will close their doors and their curtains. On sight of our uniforms after the "Battle" no bar, restaurant or cafe would serve us and so we had to ask our friend portraying the rebels and the women with us to buy it and bring it to us hidden down the street.
Post by insurrectomad on Jan 8, 2011 21:46:37 GMT -5
Dente, You are right only in part. Had luna been given better support and had all the leaders been united and supported each other, then yes they could have stood a chance. the chronic lack of ammo was one of their weaknesses and distributing bullets to all Fil. combatants was wasteful as less than half and the skill to hit a target. The army was never united or oganized to any degree. Even the Cabinet of Govt. itself was divided into factions of pro spanish, pro American and Those seeking total independence. These factions are still to be found in the Philippines today!