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Post by batangueno on May 28, 2011 4:02:21 GMT -5
There are two famous quotes from the Philippine-American War which I presume were originally in Spanish. Does anyone know what the original quotation in Spanish was?
Gregorio Del Pilar [presumably in Spanish but I guess could also have been in Tagalog?]:
"The General has given me the pick of all the men that can be spared and ordered me to defend the Pass. I realize what a terrible task has been given me. And yet I feel that this is the most glorious moment of my life. What I do is done for my beloved country. No sacrifice can be too great."
Licerio Geronimo [almost certainly in Spanish]:
"Dear Madam: I am indeed very sorry to have caused the death of your beloved husband, but like him, I have also a duty to my country."
Furthermore, the account of American war correspondent Richard Henry Little mentions the following about Del Pilar at Tirad Pass:
"...heard his voice continually during the fight, scolding them, praising them cursing, appealing in one moment to their love of their native land and the next instant threatening to kill them if they did not stand firm"
So what language did Del Pilar use here? I assume a combination of Spanish and Tagalog? Since otherwise how could the American reporter even understand him...
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Post by frank on May 28, 2011 18:41:09 GMT -5
Can you cite the publication that you quoted Richard Henry Little from?
We may be able to discern if he worked with a translator or he is a native speaker of Spanish or Tagalog.
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Post by insurrectomad on May 29, 2011 8:48:20 GMT -5
One must take everything written by Richard Henry with a pinch of salt as his "observation" of Gen. Greg. Del Pilar was a romantic fabrication according to the 8 filipino survivors, one of which was his batman charged with holding his horse. The Gen. spent most of the battle at the top of the hill and ordered his men to cease firing to let the smoke clear enough for him to see what was happening. Still unable to see too much due to his kneeling in the long grass, he rose up to poke his head above it. Some americans had already gained the high ground to the flank by stringing their gun slings and belts together to assist their climb. one took a shot at Greg. and the bullet passed through his neck, killing him. His horse was still at the top of the hill and there was no secret pathway or native guide acting as traitor. Given that most of his men most likely came from humble stock, speaking in Spanish would not guaranty the men would understand his commands. Henry was following the tradition of the "Dime a Novel" reporting used in covering the Wild Western stories. None of items reputed to have been taken from the corps has ever come to light or been offered at auction in the USA. In Manila's Nat. Hist. Museum I saw 8 years ago 3 triangle shaped silver buttons still attached to a scrap of rayadillo cloth. The notice said " taken from the body of Greg. Del Pilar at Tirad Pass" by an American soldier and later given the the museum. The Problem with that is his men say he wore his new Khaki uniform on that day. Maybe some can confirm this? ---David
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Post by RayAdillO on May 31, 2011 1:12:36 GMT -5
David, I have read this account long before about Del Pilar getting killed early or during the battle from a headshot as he poked his head slightly above the grasses.
Anyway I seriously doubt Richard Henry's account simply because how on earth would he know what Del Pilar's voice sounded like? It could easily have been any other of Del Pilar's lieutenants or sergeants barking orders throughout, wouldn't any Filipino's shouting voice sounded the same to an american in those days?
Newspapermen and reporters did tend to "color" their writing with late 19th or turn of the century sensibilities to make a more interesting read, dotted with quotable quotes and romantic prose.
Nevertheless, I find that what may have been more close to the actual truth would be more astonishing because if Del Pilar did die early or in the middle of the engagement, that would mean his men kept on fighting even without their "beloved" commander. I mean, that unit of Filipino soldiers in Tirad Pass had 100% dedication to duty. They didn't run or call it quits once they realized Del Pilar was killed, even if it must have certainly affected their morale.
Secondly, if Del Pilar was a casualty during the early or middle of the battle, it means the men who were left stayed in their positions and fought to end until they themselves were killed. Otherwise, they would have never left Del Pilar's body and all his effects within the scene.
But then naturally if Del Pilar was among the last to die, then any effort to deny the enemy of his body and effects would be out of the question.
So there would be two lines of thought here, either.....
1) The men fought heroically to the death because Del Pilar was there to to keep them "in line", until such time he had no more men and decided to ride a horse to attract the last enemy bullet and die a "heroes' death", (so the credit mainly would go to Del Pilar) or....
2) The men by themselves fought heroically and to the last, even without their commanding officer, such being a testament to the individual discipline of each lowly soldier and dedication to their mission, even unto death.
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Post by batangueno on Sept 20, 2014 6:46:57 GMT -5
Does anyone actually know who has Del Pilar's diary now? Or if it is now lost, who actually recovered it after the battle? Was it taken by one of the survivors of his force, or did the Americans recover it? It is so widely quoted and I'm curious who first reported that famous last diary entry. About General Geronimo's message to Lawton's wife, it is mentioned in an article by Daniel H. Dizon (War History Club of Angeles): news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2479&dat=20050301&id=GlY1AAAAIBAJ&sjid=ciUMAAAAIBAJ&pg=646,14943807 I guess it was Lawton's wife who received the photo with the message in Spanish, and that from this source we now know the text in English?
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Post by insurrectomad on Nov 20, 2014 9:59:03 GMT -5
Alas their are a lot of items and personal arms of Filipino generals held in America but none have ever been photographed in colour or featured in any magazine in recent years. I can think of the Swords of Gens. Makabulos and Hizon in addition to all the items taken from Del Pilar's corpse. In Dizon's account of Gen. F. Makabolos there are photos of his sword, a water bottle and a brass bell he used to summon his troops. I would love to have colour photos of those items! Del Pilar never climbed his horse at the Tirad Pass as a private soldier held it tethered at the top of the hill. Del Pilar moved half way down to a ridge, towards the firing line and after ordering his men to cease firing so he could more clearly see what was happening, was shoot in the neck as he raised his head above the grass. The US Sniper was an the flank slightly above him so that the bullet sped down into his chest. The boy general died in an instant not saying a word.
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