Post by insurrectomad on Mar 8, 2010 8:17:17 GMT -5
I'm curious to know what is the correct shade of red for the officers epaulettes worn during the 1896-04 wars. most re-enactors sport scarlet ones whereas all the ones I have seen in museums and original paintings suggest a darker, wine-red. The uniform of the Guardia Civil and the Tiradores has the same problem. Is their a surviving uniform still around in a museum in Spain perhaps, to settle the matter. Would not the Guardia Negra have worn black belts and ammo pouches, rather than brown? The presentation of the lectures is of such a high standard, I wonder if it could not be presented as a half hour TV prog. If not at least an approach to Milt. Hist. Mags. should be made. ( see my new THREAD about the usual presentation in mags & books of the Filipino soldiers in their telling of the War in the Philippines) David
Post by pedroscollection on Mar 9, 2010 0:27:24 GMT -5
> Regarding the blet, yes, the Guardia civil used to wear black belts for the Spanish Remington Webbing. Filipinos made their own version of Spanish Remington Webbing (local made) & some of them, the Pinoys made it brown. & Selwyn's uniform used to be a Guardia Civil who later tunred or joined the Katipunan & wore a webbing of a local made.
> In-case the Guardia civil wore a Spaniosh Mauser Webbing, their belt will be brown since the original Spanish Mauser Webbing, majority if not all were colored brown (different shades, some tan, some darker).
> Regarding the Red piping or epaulletes, I believe they used either a scarlet red or a wine red, depending on the unit or batch of uniforms. You'll notice that in the black & white photo, the red part of the uniform is lighter (than the dark blue uniform) & some is light enough to conclude its a scarlet red (since if its wine red) it must appear darker. Some artifacts may appear wine red today in museums it might be scarlet (or wine red also), it may become arker red because of dirt & time
Post by insurrectomad on Mar 13, 2010 3:52:47 GMT -5
i think this is perfect way to deliver the true and large assembled presentation of the many varied uniforms worn by Filipino soldiers. Is it not a good time to approach Osprey Publishers or/and military hist. magazines to doing a truthful, redress of all the misinformation that has been printed up till now. Perry alone, has enough material to create an Ospray "Men at Arms" sequal to their last publication 'The Spanish-American War And the Philippine Insurrection 1898-1902'. (Pub. 2008.) Beautiful illustrations that perpetuate the following; All the Filipino uniforms were Spanish ones taken from captured garrison stores and then removing the Spanish badges and buttons. No mention of Luna's designs of uniform or of the badges, and other ensignia worn. the illustration of an 'Insurgent officer' clearly shows him sporting Spanish Corded shoulder pieces and not the broad 'Russian" style epaulettes, and without and badge on his kepi. NOTE also the terms Insurrection,and Insurgents. The War in the Philippines last years after the American fight in Cuba, casualties vastly more numerous and required a very large American military force to succeed. Still Our war is given little consideration, an afterthought, an insignificant petty conflict always subordinate to the Cuban War. Osprey are not the only ones either. Military History, Military Illustrated mags -to name but 2; are the same. The Main problem as I see it, is that in each case the writers and even the illustrators are not Filipinos, They are Americans. Even the writer Alejendro de Quesada, is an American of Cuban decent. Military Illustrated (Pub. in London) does a section of the magazine to Re-enactment groups and holds annual awards to re-enacting groups as does Military Campaigning. Collectively we have a large membership that includes groups from Phils. Spain, America & Brit. Is it not time to correct these misconceptions? This year being 111th anniversary of 1898, and the death of Gen. Lawton; this may be a very good time to approach the military mags and book publishers, don't you think?
Sorry for the late reply - I'm still here in Dallas TX working on my masters. I really do miss you fine fellows there and I look forward to perhaps one day 'raising' a reenactment unit among the youth and maybe putting on a show like this:
You know, Perry should just publish independently. Osprey doesn't care, frankly - there's probably not enough call for it outside of the Philippines. I think that with all the info that's been gathered here there could be a volume of Philippine Army from the Revolution to WW2. Osprey ain't gonna do it for us mates.
Im willing to help you out...I did the photography for Franz's Gallant warriors book. If we shoot little by little i'm sure we can get it done. I suggest we do it chronologically and release books by topic/period. Kayang kaya yan.
Post by insurrectomad on Oct 9, 2012 10:06:19 GMT -5
The raid on Balanggiga followed after the American raid that resulted in the surprise capture of Gen. Aguinaldo by Col. Funston. Let anyone pick the bones out of that! What sauce for the goose is source for the gander, not so?